1. Does the book "look" like the movie?
2. Is it cool to be inside Chief's head?
3. What literary devices (imagery, symbolism, setting, irony) does the part you pick include?
Pictured here: Chief almost drowning in a foggy milk.
Wednesday, February 27, 2019
Part of the Novel—due March 1
Pick part of the book to read (other than the first pages I read aloud). Include the page numbers you're using. Write 300+ words to react to what you read. Answer these questions if you would like:
1. Does the book "look" like the movie?
2. Is it cool to be inside Chief's head?
3. What literary devices (imagery, symbolism, setting, irony) does the part you pick include?
Pictured here: Chief almost drowning in a foggy milk.
1. Does the book "look" like the movie?
2. Is it cool to be inside Chief's head?
3. What literary devices (imagery, symbolism, setting, irony) does the part you pick include?
Pictured here: Chief almost drowning in a foggy milk.
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Roths
Is the book like the movie. Well i think that the book is different because it is from chiefs prospective and the movie involves with what happens when Mcmurphy is in the ward and how he sort of changes the lives of most of the people around him. Then in the book it shows what it was like for chef what his life was like how he see thing so it is like we see thing through chiefs eyes when we read the book. Now things that were the same to start nurse ratched was still stone cold and kind of heartless like a mechain and the ward was several individual rooms that were locked by gates and also the black workers that wore white they made fun of the patients were in both the book and movie. What it is like in Chiefs head he seems to always imagine things that are not there and he also thinks that everyone that is in the ward are robots that need to be fixed and he also thinks that machines are always controlling him moving his body because he can't then he see the nurse as a horrible robotic monster that is heartless and not caring about what happens to the people in the ward. I think that most of the stuff that chief see is imaginary because he imagens that most people are robots he also thinks that the nurse is a horrible monster which is somewhat right the nurse seems like she is heartless either way weather chief thinks that she is a robot or not she is still a awful person. I think that it is always a good thing to see what it is like in someone else head or see what there point of view is like for them or how they think or feel about life which is what you look for when you see something from another person's point of view.
pg18. Mcmurphy is now in the hospital and the first thing that I read was he was calling out Ellis for splashing around in his own water. and all Ellis says was "why I thank you." At this point, I believe that Mcmurphy is wondering why these men are in here when they shouldn't even be around anyone in general because of the way that they need help so bad. He then notices that Mcmurphy is shaking hands with just about anyone and he even says that the ones that are in the wheelchairs that cant pick up the hands looks like dead birds, or what he actually sees, dead mechanical birds that have bones and wires running through them. Getting toward the end of this he found chief and started to laugh because Mcmurphy was laughing at the way he looked, all balled up but he was mostly laughing at the fact that he was acting deaf and dumb. Chief thought he could see right through it but he didn't care he was going to keep quiet and pretend. This page in this chapter is really interesting to the movie. The movie had no way of him balled up while being strapped. Chief was standing with the square mop thing that he pushed around and then he came up to him. I believe that there were two different types of periodic timing of who did the book and helped with the movie. The best thing about the book is that there is so much more detail in it with his actual thoughts of things while he was in there listening and watching Mcmurphy.
I believe the book does look like the movie. There are some differences and some parts mentioned that I didn't remember seeing in the film but they were graphic content so that may have been a part that you skipped in class. Other than that though I would have to say the book does really follow the movie very well and has the timeline of the movie. That is why I believe that the book does indeed "look" like the movie. It is nice to see it through Chief's perspective also. The reason I think it is is because Chief's one of the main characters throughout the movie so it's cool to see it how it was for him. On another hand though, I think it would be also very interesting to see it all through McMurphy's viewpoints because he had more tragic events happen to him I believe. Imagery is portrayed in the part that I chose to read because Harding is talking about his wife and the problem he is having with her and he goes into very descriptive detail.
Riley Larson
Pg,19 At this time Mcmurphy is in the hospital and doesn’t know chief yet. He asked what was the chief name and Billy across the room said his name Chief Bromden. I believe that he wanted to find out more about the chief and what’s he like everyone says he deaf and dumb but the reality he’s just scared and feels small inside. They said in the movie they found out the Chief is half Indian, a Columbia Indian Harding said in the book. Mcmurphy was confused at first he says in the book when he first saw him sitting he thought to himself Bromden isn’t an Indian name. Mcmurphy didn’t really care if he was deaf or not he looked at Chief and said shake my hand or I consider it an insult. Mcmurphy was shocked when he Chief shook his hand and didn’t think Chief could hear him. In the book, he noticed that the Chief had an anchor tattooed back from his knuckles. He also had dirty Band-Aid on his middle knuckle. In the book, he gave out details about the chief had on his hands. He said in the books that the palms were callused and the calluses were cracked and dirt was also worked in the cracks.
On page 48 and 49 I read the beginning of the page while in a group meeting. Mrs Ratchet the nurse who was in charge. She told the doctor you should advise McMurphy on the protocol of the group meetings. She can make any expression she wants to use on somebody. When she smiles even when she is not happy and gets angry. The doctor folded McMurphy's hands and leaned back and talks about the Therapeutic Community. The first thing is to remain seating during the course of the meeting to say it's the only way, to see for us to maintain order. Then McMurphy sits back down and whispers across the room “who’s wife? Then Martini snaps up eyes wide staring. Then sits and listen to the rest of the meeting. Then McMurphy sits up and says something weird going on here. No ones smiling or showing any expression. Everyone pressed into the wall without laughing or anything. McMurphy says about Therapeutic Community enough times to repeat it forward and backward. How a guy can get along in a group before he’ll be able to function in a normal society, how the group can help the guy by showing him out of place, How society can decide who’s insane and who isn’t, so you got to measure up. All the stuff. The only time a doctor comes into a meeting to control is when a new patient comes in to go into theory. It tells how Therapeutic Community runs completely by patients and votes working towards citizens going out on the real streets. You should feel to express your emotional problems to people in front of you that are in the same place you are in. When a patient speaks they list it in a log book for staff to see what going on and what you may need help in.
I don't think the book looks like the movie it feels like its a prison in the chief head and not a mental institute in the book it seems like there's something always out to get them and it seems like there never safe.it's cool to be in chiefs head to see what its like to be schizophrenic and how he doesn't want to trust anyone because they think that everyone is a robot that needs to be fixed there. in. this book they use descriptive words that most people wouldn't use "the slightest thing messy or out kilter or in the ways ties her into a little white know of tight smiled fury" to me that's very descriptive. noah h
I think that the book is not like movie because in the book it seems more like a prison than a mental institute. . Mrs Ratchet the nurse who was in charge. She told the doctor you should advise McMurphy on the protocol of the group meetings. She can make any expression she wants to use on somebody. When she smiles even when she is not happy and gets angry. At the beginning mcMurphy didn't know who chief was but now he does. McMurphy made everyone feel lifted up and made them smile and laugh and have a good time.
Well he is in the institution he is trying to be mute so if anyone talk around him he can hear them. They are trying to do stuff to chief so he will not be so mute and talk to people and when they point to a spot on the floor and he would do it because he wanted to hear what everyone was saying about him. When mack would interact with chief outside he would love it because he would help them and he wouldn't know how he help them in the long run. When they want to shave his hair in the morning he doesn't like that because he think there are doing something else to him other than what they are saying. When new people come in chief usually see them first before anyone else sees them because he is mopping the floors.
But today he was locked in inclusion room because he didn't want to shave or otherwise for him control him with meds.
Keisha Felcher. The book does seem like the movie in some ways. The part I was reading had some relatable parts from the movie to the book. But it also had some parts that I was not familiar with. I think it’s interesting to be inside of chief's head because you could picture what he would think and maybe what his next move would be. The part that I read was chapter 2 and it was an interesting chapter. It had some stuff I wasn’t so familiar with and some things that I recognized.
On page 217 I found the part where McMurphy gives the chief a piece of juicy fruit gum and chief responds by saying thank you. This doesn't look anything like the movie cause in the movie chief appears as if he says thank you on purpose as a way of telling McMurphy his secret, but in the book he says it accidentally because it was the first nice thing anyone has done for him in a very long time and the thank you just kind of slipped from his mouth. When chief said thank you in the book his voice cracked and squeaked because as McMurphy said "it was out of practice" and laughed and chief attempted to laugh along, but couldn't because his voice was weak from being silent for so long. In the movie when chief first talked thank you was all he said and nothing else but in the book he tried to laugh along. McMurphy told chief that he had until 5 am to practice talking because that’s when he is going to make his escape only he never did say that exactly in the movie and he also never made his escape in either because the mental hospital ruined his brain.
Joseph Wardlow
I read ch 6 pg 76 and on the first page of the chapter, it is talking about the time of the year. Which was Christmas and how a man walked in the building with a cherry red nose and all tangled up in tinsel. When the man first walks in the building all the boys get him cornered in a hall with a bunch of flashlights. He was trying to leave because he was on a tight schedule and was weirded out by all the people freaking out pushing him around and questioning. Then after that, he never got the chance to leave he was stuck there for 6 years before they discharged him.
In the movie, Chief acts as is he is deaf and is unable to speak. So I think it's kind of cool to see that in his perspective. I believe that the Chief got put in the institution because of PTSD. I think that's the reason why he doesn't talk. Yes, I think it's cool to be inside Chiefs head because it shows how he looked at the other inmates in the institution. He probably sees McMurphy as crazy and wild at first, but then, in the end, he says he wouldn't know what to do if he hadn't tried to talk to him throughout his stay. McMurphy got the Chief to start playing basketball with them and looks like he was starting to get out of his comfort zone. When new people started coming into the institution, he was usually the first ones to see them before anyone else. At the end of the movie, the Chief ends up suffocating McMurphy because the nurse ordered a lobotomy to be done. Which is a surgical procedure to the brain. At first, I thought the Chief looked intimidating due to his height and he was very muscular.
Hood- pd.4
I read the entirety of chapter three from pages fifteen to twenty six. McMurphy shows up on the ward soon after Chief "Broom" Bromden's reaction to getting his hair cut. He ignores the ward guards with the thermometer and goes straight for the "acute" care patients. He stalks around laughing. He makes everyone uncomfortable with how openly he laughs and walks around like he owns the place. He shakes people's hands and talks about his gambling and his previous top dog "big personality" placement in previous institutions. Chief notices him asking Billy if he is the biggest looney in the ward. Billy responds with a terrible stutter and explains that he is second in line after Mr. Harding. McMurphy is making a scene by now and everyone in the ward is excited because something new is happening. When McMurphy talks to Harding they go back and forth about who voted for Eisenhower and Harding gives in when McMurphy says he will vote for Eisenhower again in November. He talks about how the army taught him his love for blackjack and how it taught other people what they like to do as well. When he walks over to the "chronic" side he speaks with Ellis, pulling his hand off the nail to shake it. He tells Ellis that he aught not to be standing in his own water. Ellis moves away but quickly goes back because he almost forgot the nails were supposedly holding his hands to the wall. Chief notices now that McMurphy is walking towards him and he is extremely worried that McMurphy can see through his deaf and dumb act. McMurphy talks to him before Billy interrupts and explains that Chief is deaf and dumb. Chief talked about how most of the Chronics are failed treatments. Ellis for example was a lobotomy gone wrong, they cut open his forehead and left pins in him to hold it in the right position as it healed. He was considered their worst failure. Nurse Ratched comes over and talks to McMurphy and he looks over at the nurse. They speak about how McMurphy is always told the rules right before he looks like he's about to break them. This entry for McMurphy from Chief's point of view sets up the entire novel and I think it is possible that it is the best entrance for a character I've ever read.
The book is defiantly much different the movie is and that is what to expect because it is a ,ovie and a movie is trying to tough on more aspects of other people than just taking one person's lives and making into one kind of how chief's life is represented in the book. Chief life in the book is represented in a first person point of view as if chief is the one that is narrating the book and all that is said is stuff that came out of chief mouth, stuff that he sees and is going on inside of his head or stuff he has heard come out of other people's mouth. To be able to be inside of chief mind it is definitely a trip because you are taken into a perspective into someone that has something wrong with him so that what causes him to act and say the stuff he says because those things are going on in his head so he thinks that in that case that they are real and everybody around him is also dealing with the same problem that he is going threw at the specific time. Its take away from how you look at people that could possibly have something wrong with them because they could possibly having things go threw there head that isn't actually what is happening in real time because of what condition they have lacks something inside them for that to happen to them. The part of the book that i choose was definitely imagery it showed a lot on what goes threw chief mind and what he goes threw on a daily basis. The things that chief says you are able to paint the picture inside your head and be able to imagine what he is kinda going through.
hasert pd4
The book isn't like the movie in a lot of aspects, movies have a lot of stuff taken out of them and used differently than they are in the book. In the movie, Chief isn't telling it in the first person, he isn't explaining everything or how he feels about things or how he sees all of this, it's more like it's all about McMurphy not about the chief. You have to understand Chief, why he is the way he is, what he's thinking, why he's thinking it, what is he gonna do, is he gonna do something to help out, is he gonna let everyone know he can hear and talk or is he always gonna pretend to be deaf and mute?-zoie hite
I don't think the book looks like the movie because the part I read in the book was about McMurphy talking the patience on his fishing trip he couldn't really explain the fishing trip very well because he didn't go on the fishing trip. I think being inside chief's head is cool because you always want to have a different perspective on something because he is the perfect explain because he doesn't talk to anyone nobody talks to him so he can just listen and watch. He gets to watch everything because he just walks around the hospital watching people and listening to what they have to say. the part I picked out has a lot of setting because he is trying to talk about the fishing trip but he never went on the fishing trip so you have to think what it would look like other than the movie you could see what it was like. The book doesn't look like the movie because the movie had the perspective of McMurphy so the movie just followed what he did mostly the book has the perspective of the chief and that is totally different then McMurphy because McMurphy was always doing something exciting and always wanting to get out of the hospital where chief wanted to get out but he never took the effort to try and get out of the hospital and he is quiet and just listen so if McMurphy is not there in the movie then we don't hear much from chief.
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