A place for effective communication through purposeful writing and meaningful reading.
Friday, March 5, 2021
React to Mr. Massmann—due March 10
cinephilefix.com
Write 400+ words to react to Mr. Massmann's presentation. You pick your angle.
14 comments:
Andrew James Colby
said...
Well, this was a pretty decent presentation, I thought Mr. Massmann did a good job at finding as much info he needed to show how people with disabilities were treated throughout the years and generations. Though, I feel like he should have gone a bit more into what country did what in which year. It would show how people all over the world dealt with people with disabilities. The only people we saw were the ancient Greeks and Romans, but I understand if he didn't have enough time to put other ones in. Overall, pretty decent presentation!
I don’t agree with how the disabled were treated up until after the willowbrook state school period. Before then all the disabled people were seen as useless, a waste of space, and nobody cared for them. I don’t think that is how anyone should be treated. Disabled people are the same as everyone else. All the way back to the ancient Greeks they were mistreated. They saw disabled people as weak, who couldn’t do anything. What happened inside the willowbrook state school was a tragedy. The disable people were treated like rats. After that period they finally started to get more out of their lives. The paralympics is something to agree with because it is fair for them to compete against each other. They were able to come into public schools which I agree with as well. People started seeing disabled people as good.
I thought this presentation was good and had good information. I thought it was not cool that the disable people had to work instead of getting taken care of. I did not like it where they had to sleep and where they could not go to the bathroom and they did not have much for food or anything to drink. I am so glad that our school is bringings in the disabled kids and letting them learn just like the others. I am glad that this issue has gone a long way and so glad we don’t push these kids out. I know that this issue still happens and it sucks but we can't do anything about it. I love how in the Revolution Era we started thinking more about disabilities and we came up with schools for them and let them learn their way. The War and Institutional Revolution Era we did not allow people with disabilities into the U.S. because we did not want the other states to think we were dumb and don’t do anything to make our land pretty or healthy. I like how during WW2 and to now they have to take care of military men and woman and so they thought they would bring in disability people into that. I love how they came up with a Disability Act that let kids with disabilities to go into public schools without schools and other people to judge then or not let them in. I love that they made a Act that was called Americans with disabilities Act, which helped people with disabilities get a school education and it was a guarantee for them to get an education. Again with Willbrook which is the school that they just slept in. They got abused, they could not use the bathroom so they had to lay in it and step in it. The rooms were super crowded so you could not move. They were locked in the room so they could not go anywhere, there were no windows in the rooms. If they acted up they had to get all of their teeth pulled. The parents just left the kids there and they did not come back to check on them. The parents let the people there experiment on the kids. No one reported this until 1972. There were a lot of kids dead and sick by the time that someone said something about this.
I find it intriguing that they wouldn't let people with disabilities into the U.S. for something completely out of their control. The asylums really caught my attention because I watch videos of people investigating or exploring some asylums and they tell you the history about it. People staying there being experimented on are over packed with patients and understaffed. Which makes it hard to keep all the patients cleaned and make them comfortable but that was rarely the case. Pennhurst Asylum is horrible if you know anything about the background. There were asylums that held people for not only physical disabilities but mental as well like people with ADHD or PTSD. MAny more. When shown today people like that are completely capable of being on their own meaning not in an asylum being neglected. It’s much more accepted now so you're able to comfortably tell people who know how they found out about something like ADHD or PTSD? Just because they weren’t acting like everyone else I’m not sure. Curious on where it stopped because now there is such a wide variety of disabilities whether mental or physical how we're to know if they were faking it or not if they have not yet discovered it? I hope that makes sense. Also another question people who were born to society at the time “perfect” or as others say “normal” and they had like an accident or something unfortunate to make them disable than would they say its fake or did they have the medical technology to tell maybe I need common sense to figure it out I don’t have much of that. Soul surfer if you have seen that in her situation she was fine in the beginning but got her arm bitten off. So would she than be labeled as disabled would she be put in an asylum? I guess I know it depends on the era on whether she’d live or not. Since people with ADHD or PTSD what other mental illnesses would be considered disabling? Or have them be labeled as “dumb” I would think after all that time of holding them in asylums they would’ve changed it realizing it’s not doing anything for them. Nof all of them we’re able to speak up I don’t think they would have listened to them at the time because of the treatment they gave them just because of the way they were born. zody
my reaction to this is I'm glad that I was born in this area in sted of the greek there was a lot of things wrong with this timeline and I would rather get some help instead of being thrown off a cliff but I am glad that they decided to make better chouses instead of making it worse than what it was before.
Everything has a history to it and ain't any point in trying to hide the dark side of it. People with disabilities were never asked to be born with it. They also never asked to be treated so terribly. Their disabilities are something that cannot be fixed but can be treated. They physically and mentally can not do what other people without disabilities can. So they need a little bit more help than other people do. Everything back then, people’s mindsets were different from today’s world. People with disabilities were thought of by other people as unfit for society and looked down on. Families who had a disabled child were often abandoned and thought to be a burden in the family. Today we try to do better by bringing people together from people with disabilities and race. Getting everyone included is the key to having happiness in the world.
I had already known about everything he presented just because I was curious when I was little, the only difference I see in my opinion now is that I feel like it is way more wrong and brutal. it is still depressing and interesting to know or get an idea of how they saw people back then as compared to now. however, I don't think we should really be mad at them because even now we still do some pretty messed up things that people in the future are gonna look back and ask why gays and blacks were being killed over stuff they can't control and Chinese or anyone of that origin is being beaten just for there looks (because of the covid virus). so I don't really think we can judge them till we get our own awful stuff under control.
It was a good presentation, I like how he showed how people with disabilities were treated throughout time. The one that caught my attention was the Greek, Roman, and Sparta era. It caught my attention the most because they did the worse thing out of all the era's and that was throwing the children if they were born with a disability off a cliff. During that time they were always at war with each other and needed strong men to fight for them and win the wars and battles. Overall it was a good presentation but I'm confused why the parents would sign off and send their kids to Willowbrook state school if they had a disability. They knew what was gonna happened and they just cut them from their family and lives.
My reaction to the entire presentation was unforgettable and shocking because I didn’t know the hatred and history that the disabled people went through. I even didn't think that they were segregated too like Africans and LGBT’s. Back then they thought it was a wrath of god and that evolution is changing and everything. They would sacrifice them, send them to circuses, and force parents to give them away to asylums and everything else. The only way that they could do for a living and survive is being taken care of at the hands of religious people and perform at circuses instead of being on the streets and not getting everything they want. Hate and prejudice all went down the hill when wars were breaking, public figures making a difference, and the world opening their eyes and to see what it’s doing. After cruel laws and hatred began to deplete famous figures such as Martin Luther King Jr and Harvey Milk began to create freedom for not just for their people, but for everyone in the human race including the disables. When all of this succeeded including the movements and laws passed everyone got to see more dark stuff of what people have been through and was the moment where everything changed in the eyes of people. The things that the disabled went through during the movements and pressures to change the laws are secret human experiments, harmful treatment, and isolation when they were on the streets or in hospitals. If they didn’t succeed people wouldn’t know the dark truth and I wouldn’t be alive or anything like that. Cruel laws may be over, but hate will never end.
I think that it is crazy that as people we didn’t try helping people with disabilities until like 50 years ago. As long as humans have been on this Earth we didn’t try to include or help people with disabilities. We only saw them as burdens. People who don’t or can’t contribute to society. What really stood out to me was when Mr. Massmann talked about the hospitals that are trying to help them and teach them but not really helping them. Why would they build the hospitals to “help” them but not really help them. At that point they are just imprisoning them, not helping them. A good thing is, is that we are starting to actually help people with disabilities more than we have in the past. But we still have more work to do to try to include them and help them become better. Another thing is when soldiers would come back from WW2 and the government wouldn’t even take care of them. They will just let them struggle even thought they were the one that went over there and fought for the country.
i think Mr Mossman did a pretty good job presenting he did kinda hope topics a lot witch made it kinda hard to follow along i i cant beleive people didnt always help peoeple with disabilitys just becaues you dont do things the same as other people dosnt make you and idiot it just makes you diffrent i cant belive its only been 50 years since we started helping people in need meier
I think that the disabled were treated like objects pretty much. They had no respect for them what so ever and they saw them as useless people who couldn't do anything. I'd say disabled people are humans too and they are in fact more capable of doing things that I couldn't even imagine. All people should be treated equally to this day and not only people of different races but people with disabilities too, we need to include people not exclude them because it just makes them feel like crap, and to prevent that you invite people to do things with you. The part I liked the most was the part about the Rennisaunce because I've been to the Renaissance Festival in Shakopee Wisconsin and it was very entertaining and learning what it was like back then.
The angle that I’m talking about is how they treated them all the way back to the ancient Greeks and the Romans. The Greeks and Romans treated the people with disabilities like calling them all with physical disabilities that they would call them Monstrum which means a monster. They were inferior to everyone else. The medieval time they would get help from family, friends, and the church. But they had to state assistance. But at this time the hospitals started to be established. They would call the ‘lepre’, the ‘blynde’, the ‘dumbe’, the ‘deaff’, the ‘natural fool’, the ‘creple’, the ‘lame’, and the ‘lumatuck’. In the renaissance era, Henry VIII was against the church so he made a church for himself. But his laws were ‘Study Vagabond’ they were punished because they were faking everything. ‘Impotent poor’ they cared for means that they actually have disabilities. Last but not least the natural fools were welcomed at the court but they got a place to sleep and food but they got laughed at. In the revolution era, they got bigger hospitals and even the first specialist school for deaf and dumb children. In the industrial revolution the 1907 immigration act. It meant that people with disabilities were not allowed to be in the US. In the world war era, they had the return of the disabled “Heroes” because when they were overseas so they got hurt in battle. So they would have physical disabilities so they give them their own housing. In Willowbrook in 1947-1987, they would neglect the kids because they would have enough room or even not let them use the restroom. If the kids would bite they would get their teeth pulled. But they would even get tested on. Now the disabilities are now accepted in the world. They can do what they want. They can go to regular school and they have special teachers for them in the school. Pfeiffer
I liked how the presentation showed how poorly people were treated. I Think It sucks how the Romans would throw the Kids off a cliff if they had a disability. and the ones who survive are called monstrum. It also sucks that they were forced into working instead of getting the right attention that they need. but when They finally get some attention but are sent to mental hospitals but are still are not getting much attention because of how understaffed they are in the hospitals. It sucked how if you had a disability you were not allowed to enter the United States. I am happy that know we are including people with disabilities in our schools and are able to treat them like a normal person
14 comments:
Well, this was a pretty decent presentation, I thought Mr. Massmann did a good job at finding as much info he needed to show how people with disabilities were treated throughout the years and generations. Though, I feel like he should have gone a bit more into what country did what in which year. It would show how people all over the world dealt with people with disabilities. The only people we saw were the ancient Greeks and Romans, but I understand if he didn't have enough time to put other ones in. Overall, pretty decent presentation!
I don’t agree with how the disabled were treated up until after the willowbrook state school period. Before then all the disabled people were seen as useless, a waste of space, and nobody cared for them. I don’t think that is how anyone should be treated. Disabled people are the same as everyone else. All the way back to the ancient Greeks they were mistreated. They saw disabled people as weak, who couldn’t do anything. What happened inside the willowbrook state school was a tragedy. The disable people were treated like rats. After that period they finally started to get more out of their lives. The paralympics is something to agree with because it is fair for them to compete against each other. They were able to come into public schools which I agree with as well. People started seeing disabled people as good.
I thought this presentation was good and had good information. I thought it was not cool that the disable people had to work instead of getting taken care of. I did not like it where they had to sleep and where they could not go to the bathroom and they did not have much for food or anything to drink. I am so glad that our school is bringings in the disabled kids and letting them learn just like the others. I am glad that this issue has gone a long way and so glad we don’t push these kids out. I know that this issue still happens and it sucks but we can't do anything about it. I love how in the Revolution Era we started thinking more about disabilities and we came up with schools for them and let them learn their way. The War and Institutional Revolution Era we did not allow people with disabilities into the U.S. because we did not want the other states to think we were dumb and don’t do anything to make our land pretty or healthy. I like how during WW2 and to now they have to take care of military men and woman and so they thought they would bring in disability people into that. I love how they came up with a Disability Act that let kids with disabilities to go into public schools without schools and other people to judge then or not let them in. I love that they made a Act that was called Americans with disabilities Act, which helped people with disabilities get a school education and it was a guarantee for them to get an education. Again with Willbrook which is the school that they just slept in. They got abused, they could not use the bathroom so they had to lay in it and step in it. The rooms were super crowded so you could not move. They were locked in the room so they could not go anywhere, there were no windows in the rooms. If they acted up they had to get all of their teeth pulled. The parents just left the kids there and they did not come back to check on them. The parents let the people there experiment on the kids. No one reported this until 1972. There were a lot of kids dead and sick by the time that someone said something about this.
McCulley
I find it intriguing that they wouldn't let people with disabilities into the U.S. for something completely out of their control. The asylums really caught my attention because I watch videos of people investigating or exploring some asylums and they tell you the history about it. People staying there being experimented on are over packed with patients and understaffed. Which makes it hard to keep all the patients cleaned and make them comfortable but that was rarely the case. Pennhurst Asylum is horrible if you know anything about the background. There were asylums that held people for not only physical disabilities but mental as well like people with ADHD or PTSD. MAny more. When shown today people like that are completely capable of being on their own meaning not in an asylum being neglected. It’s much more accepted now so you're able to comfortably tell people who know how they found out about something like ADHD or PTSD? Just because they weren’t acting like everyone else I’m not sure. Curious on where it stopped because now there is such a wide variety of disabilities whether mental or physical how we're to know if they were faking it or not if they have not yet discovered it? I hope that makes sense. Also another question people who were born to society at the time “perfect” or as others say “normal” and they had like an accident or something unfortunate to make them disable than would they say its fake or did they have the medical technology to tell maybe I need common sense to figure it out I don’t have much of that. Soul surfer if you have seen that in her situation she was fine in the beginning but got her arm bitten off. So would she than be labeled as disabled would she be put in an asylum? I guess I know it depends on the era on whether she’d live or not. Since people with ADHD or PTSD what other mental illnesses would be considered disabling? Or have them be labeled as “dumb” I would think after all that time of holding them in asylums they would’ve changed it realizing it’s not doing anything for them. Nof all of them we’re able to speak up I don’t think they would have listened to them at the time because of the treatment they gave them just because of the way they were born. zody
my reaction to this is I'm glad that I was born in this area in sted of the greek there was a lot of things wrong with this timeline and I would rather get some help instead of being thrown off a cliff but I am glad that they decided to make better chouses instead of making it worse than what it was before.
Everything has a history to it and ain't any point in trying to hide the dark side of it. People with disabilities were never asked to be born with it. They also never asked to be treated so terribly. Their disabilities are something that cannot be fixed but can be treated. They physically and mentally can not do what other people without disabilities can. So they need a little bit more help than other people do. Everything back then, people’s mindsets were different from today’s world. People with disabilities were thought of by other people as unfit for society and looked down on. Families who had a disabled child were often abandoned and thought to be a burden in the family. Today we try to do better by bringing people together from people with disabilities and race. Getting everyone included is the key to having happiness in the world.
I had already known about everything he presented just because I was curious when I was little, the only difference I see in my opinion now is that I feel like it is way more wrong and brutal. it is still depressing and interesting to know or get an idea of how they saw people back then as compared to now. however, I don't think we should really be mad at them because even now we still do some pretty messed up things that people in the future are gonna look back and ask why gays and blacks were being killed over stuff they can't control and Chinese or anyone of that origin is being beaten just for there looks (because of the covid virus). so I don't really think we can judge them till we get our own awful stuff under control.
-vargas
It was a good presentation, I like how he showed how people with disabilities were treated throughout time. The one that caught my attention was the Greek, Roman, and Sparta era. It caught my attention the most because they did the worse thing out of all the era's and that was throwing the children if they were born with a disability off a cliff. During that time they were always at war with each other and needed strong men to fight for them and win the wars and battles. Overall it was a good presentation but I'm confused why the parents would sign off and send their kids to Willowbrook state school if they had a disability. They knew what was gonna happened and they just cut them from their family and lives.
Zimmerman
My reaction to the entire presentation was unforgettable and shocking because I didn’t know the hatred and history that the disabled people went through. I even didn't think that they were segregated too like Africans and LGBT’s. Back then they thought it was a wrath of god and that evolution is changing and everything. They would sacrifice them, send them to circuses, and force parents to give them away to asylums and everything else. The only way that they could do for a living and survive is being taken care of at the hands of religious people and perform at circuses instead of being on the streets and not getting everything they want. Hate and prejudice all went down the hill when wars were breaking, public figures making a difference, and the world opening their eyes and to see what it’s doing. After cruel laws and hatred began to deplete famous figures such as Martin Luther King Jr and Harvey Milk began to create freedom for not just for their people, but for everyone in the human race including the disables. When all of this succeeded including the movements and laws passed everyone got to see more dark stuff of what people have been through and was the moment where everything changed in the eyes of people. The things that the disabled went through during the movements and pressures to change the laws are secret human experiments, harmful treatment, and isolation when they were on the streets or in hospitals. If they didn’t succeed people wouldn’t know the dark truth and I wouldn’t be alive or anything like that. Cruel laws may be over, but hate will never end.
I think that it is crazy that as people we didn’t try helping people with disabilities until like 50 years ago. As long as humans have been on this Earth we didn’t try to include or help people with disabilities. We only saw them as burdens. People who don’t or can’t contribute to society. What really stood out to me was when Mr. Massmann talked about the hospitals that are trying to help them and teach them but not really helping them. Why would they build the hospitals to “help” them but not really help them. At that point they are just imprisoning them, not helping them. A good thing is, is that we are starting to actually help people with disabilities more than we have in the past. But we still have more work to do to try to include them and help them become better. Another thing is when soldiers would come back from WW2 and the government wouldn’t even take care of them. They will just let them struggle even thought they were the one that went over there and fought for the country.
i think Mr Mossman did a pretty good job presenting he did kinda hope topics a lot witch made it kinda hard to follow along i i cant beleive people didnt always help peoeple with disabilitys just becaues you dont do things the same as other people dosnt make you and idiot it just makes you diffrent i cant belive its only been 50 years since we started helping people in need meier
I think that the disabled were treated like objects pretty much. They had no respect for them what so ever and they saw them as useless people who couldn't do anything. I'd say disabled people are humans too and they are in fact more capable of doing things that I couldn't even imagine. All people should be treated equally to this day and not only people of different races but people with disabilities too, we need to include people not exclude them because it just makes them feel like crap, and to prevent that you invite people to do things with you. The part I liked the most was the part about the Rennisaunce because I've been to the Renaissance Festival in Shakopee Wisconsin and it was very entertaining and learning what it was like back then.
The angle that I’m talking about is how they treated them all the way back to the ancient Greeks and the Romans. The Greeks and Romans treated the people with disabilities like calling them all with physical disabilities that they would call them Monstrum which means a monster. They were inferior to everyone else. The medieval time they would get help from family, friends, and the church. But they had to state assistance. But at this time the hospitals started to be established. They would call the ‘lepre’, the ‘blynde’, the ‘dumbe’, the ‘deaff’, the ‘natural fool’, the ‘creple’, the ‘lame’, and the ‘lumatuck’. In the renaissance era, Henry VIII was against the church so he made a church for himself. But his laws were ‘Study Vagabond’ they were punished because they were faking everything. ‘Impotent poor’ they cared for means that they actually have disabilities. Last but not least the natural fools were welcomed at the court but they got a place to sleep and food but they got laughed at. In the revolution era, they got bigger hospitals and even the first specialist school for deaf and dumb children. In the industrial revolution the 1907 immigration act. It meant that people with disabilities were not allowed to be in the US. In the world war era, they had the return of the disabled “Heroes” because when they were overseas so they got hurt in battle. So they would have physical disabilities so they give them their own housing. In Willowbrook in 1947-1987, they would neglect the kids because they would have enough room or even not let them use the restroom. If the kids would bite they would get their teeth pulled. But they would even get tested on. Now the disabilities are now accepted in the world. They can do what they want. They can go to regular school and they have special teachers for them in the school.
Pfeiffer
I liked how the presentation showed how poorly people were treated. I Think It sucks how the Romans would throw the Kids off a cliff if they had a disability. and the ones who survive are called monstrum. It also sucks that they were forced into working instead of getting the right attention that they need. but when They finally get some attention but are sent to mental hospitals but are still are not getting much attention because of how understaffed they are in the hospitals. It sucked how if you had a disability you were not allowed to enter the United States. I am happy that know we are including people with disabilities in our schools and are able to treat them like a normal person
Post a Comment