Google "Cuckoo's Nest full text". Read five pages of any part of the novel. Remember: the novel is told in first person by Chief Bromden. Summarize what you read. Connect what you read to what you viewed. Include 400+ words.
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I think that One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest the film was good. I think I prefer it over the book when it’s from the Chief's perspective. Just because of how the characters are perceived you get to make your own opinions about them instead of seeing it the way Chief does even though it would be good to have it from his perspective since he listens to everything people say and thinks that he can’t hear them. He can find out who is who and why just by sitting there acting like he’s in lala land/ To be pulling it of what ten or more years of acting deaf and dumb as they called it. Chief being small minded makes him observant and not wanting to speak up or voice his opinion not only because people are convinced he is deaf but also because he doesn’t think his voice mattered. One thing about the book they had Cheswick die like halfway into the book without Cheswick being in that last scene in the movie it could’ve been perceived differently or had a different outcome. Like when they had the party Cheswick wasn’t in the party in the book because he was dead but in the movie he was there. I do find it disturbing still how dead Nurse Ratched looks even though she is breathing during most of the film at least. Other times she just glares at McMurphy or the other patients when they do something that goes against her way of doing things. There is also a thought for why Chief decided to let MCMurphy know he wasn’t deaf and why in the way he did it. With gum I guess get used to him being heard without being heard if that makes sense I guess McMurphy made him felt seen since the whole point of him acting deaf and dumb is so that no one would talk to him but McMurphy did anyway. Maybe it’s cause McMurphy reminds Chief of his dad so he thought it would be funny to just say thank you. The best part about that scene is Murphy giving him another piece of gum to make sure that it was actually him saying thank you back to him. The part of the book I don’t quite understand completely is where Cheswick and Billy both kill themselves pretty grim but I guess the point is to get the message across as to how and why and all the things surrounding that outcome i am not sure.I think that having Nurse Ratched the way she was in the film where she thinks she can help him when talking to the doctor about whether or not McMurphy is mentally ill enough to stay in the hospital or have him go to jail. zody
The film to the book is way off putting and almost not likeable and I am here to tell you what’s the difference and what are the same things from the book to the movie. The book has too much focus on Chief and he narrates about the hospital, his life, and the patients mostly McMurphy and it was the number one issue that the author had with it. Yeah, I’m serious about what I’m telling the author hated his adaptation, he hated it so much he watched a second of it on TV before flipping through the channels. He also had issues of what studio’s were going to do to the tone of the movie and what actors they were going to choose. He originally wanted Marlon Brando (The Mafia Leader from The Godfather) or Gene Hackman (Lex Luthor from Superman 1978) to play Mac, but they chose Jack Nicholson instead of them which infuriated him even more about the adaptation. Although he’s not the only author to hate his adaptation, the author of Cool Hand Luke and the author of The Shining hated their adaptations too and don’t have a lot of redeeming qualities to it. There’s also not a lot of development on the other characters and other things that were explained in the book from the movie. More characters in the book suffer terrible fates and some of them commit suicide. It also shows details on Mac giving up and seeing what it does for Nurse Ratchet, the hospital, and his friends and what consequences there are to him giving up and not caring about what happens. The giving up scenario has been used many times when prisoners/patients feel like that there’s no hope and they’re not going to make it or help anyone, but it tricks everyone into realizing that there are other roadways to hope when you feel like it isn’t.
It is seen from two completely different points of view in this story. One by McMurphy and the novel was done from the chief's point of view. This allows way more insight into the mind and thought process. In the film, you never fully know what's going on but the novel does a way better job at setting you in the scene and walking you through it as if you were there yourself and feeling the things the characters are feeling seeing, and touching. The amount of realization that occurs in the film and the amount of symbolic references is amazing. In the book when they set the scene for the dog and show the outside world they make you think and feel as if this will bring light. They do this to you just as the man felt and thought as well. Thi\ey give you hope and curiosity just to rip it away and the feeling is almost the same. They show that freedom is deadly and the world has a way or society has a way of taking that from you over and over and over again, to just give and show both the character and reader the same feeling and realization the author wants you to go through.”Dog running in circles underneath, too much smell around for him to point for sure. The bird is safe as long as he keeps still. He’s holding out pretty good, but the dog keeps sniffing and circling, louder and closer. Then the bird breaks, feathers springing, jumps out of the cedar into the birdshot from Papa’s gun.)” this is what happens. They give you this nice and calming short vision of the scene and then rip it away with chaos and death. Much like what the film did with Billy and the women. When they have relations you feel proud in a way for him because he experienced freedom and joy from things he doesn't normally get or do. Then he kills himself giving you and the character a sense of loss and regret having that hope. This closes that door when the bird is shot down and the dog is left to what we can only thing is that the dog was killed as well when he was free. The book and the novel do a spectacular job making you feel and think the same ways with not only each other but also the characters.
-vargas
What I've read was easy to picture in my head because of the film and if I am being honest I don't really like to read much but actually reading this I kind of want to read again just because of the imagery and the way it's written it's easy to understand plus we watched the film so I could picture it easier. The one thing that caught my eye the most was how in the book I realized that there is more suffering to characters than there is in the film, it's more graphic but the reason why they do that I think is for us to feel the mortality that the characters are going through and they go into a lot of detail which in the film when Billy killed himself they all ran to the room and saw him dead on the floor and with a piece of glass I think and he cut deep into his wrist and that was then end of that. Another thing that I liked was how when they make a movie about the book they make them a bit different from each other to make us feel two different ways that's what I'm thinking when reading the story and have watched the film the book made me feel different. The film was a lot better though because I could actually see what was going on instead of envisioning it and that's why I like films so much is because I like watching them and you can learn alot from it.
Which ending do I prefer? The Books ending or the Films ending? Well...Both are somewhat different in their own ways but, I do prefer the films more symbolic ending the book's detailed events. I, as of recently. Start to appreciate more subtle and less "In your face" kind of endings and smaller scale of events rather than giant, bombastic aggressive endings. They can show more without needing to have someone spell it out for us and not use a text box to tell the audience what happened to the characters and what comes next after this. While yes, a more detailed ending can provide much closer to certain things and questions but it can feel very...unsatisfying to have the information given to you on a silver plate. I wish more things nowadays have a more subtle approach to things like how the Ending to this film was.
-Andrew Colby.
The Baseball Vote Scene - To summarize this scene, Macmurohy and the rest of his fellow psychiatric hospital residents are having a seated discussion with Nurse Ratched as well as an observing doctor. There are 40 guys in the room but only 19 of them accompanied Mr.MacMurphy. Macmurphy convinces them to raise their hand and they eventually do, all twenty of them. Nurse Ratched in response informs Macmurphy of the majority and how they didn’t break the majority and then she closes the vote. Macmurphy calls out her out on her unfairness and looks for anyone to vote so that they could gain the majority. He talks to Ruckly, Ellis, Pete, The Colonel, Gabriel, George, and when he finally reaches out to Chief, Chief raises his hand, although Chief himself described the action as if it was done out of reluctance. Nurse Ratched still doesn’t allow them to watch baseball but leaves the T.V. on while they work. In the middle of work, MacMurphy decides to watch the T.V., Nrs. Ratched turns it off before the game starts but nonetheless he continues to look at the dull gray screen filled with nothing, a smile on his face as if he was actually watching the game. Then, Mr. Harding grabs a seat, then Cheswick gets one, then Billy, then Scanlon, then Fredrickson, then Sefelt, and soon enough almost everybody else joins in.
In the movie, however, it is a bit more different. First of all, there are only 18 patients in the room in total. Secondly, Macmurphy doesn’t try to convince Ellis, Ellis instead stares him down for an awkward couple of seconds and then Macmurphy decides to not bother him. Another difference is the scene with Chief, in the movie, Macmurphy says a lot more to the Chief than in the book, where he’s simply listing off people and Chief is the last person he thinks of. Another difference between the movie and book is that Cheswick tells Macmiurphy that the Chief raised his hand while in the book we only hear Macmurphy automatically reacting to Chief raising his hand. The final difference I could think of is that Macmurphy was originally working before he went to the TV in the middle of his schedule while in the movie he throws a fit while arguing with Nurse Ratched and sits down at the T.V., waiting for her to put it on.
The Baseball Vote Scene - To summarize this scene, Macmurohy and the rest of his fellow psychiatric hospital residents are having a seated discussion with Nurse Ratched as well as an observing doctor. There are 40 guys in the room but only 19 of them accompanied Mr.MacMurphy. Macmurphy convinces them to raise their hand and they eventually do, all twenty of them. Nurse Ratched in response informs Macmurphy of the majority and how they didn’t break the majority and then she closes the vote. Macmurphy calls out her out on her unfairness and looks for anyone to vote so that they could gain the majority. He talks to Ruckly, Ellis, Pete, The Colonel, Gabriel, George, and when he finally reaches out to Chief, Chief raises his hand, although Chief himself described the action as if it was done out of reluctance. Nurse Ratched still doesn’t allow them to watch baseball but leaves the T.V. on while they work. In the middle of work, MacMurphy decides to watch the T.V., Nrs. Ratched turns it off before the game starts but nonetheless he continues to look at the dull gray screen filled with nothing, a smile on his face as if he was actually watching the game. Then, Mr. Harding grabs a seat, then Cheswick gets one, then Billy, then Scanlon, then Fredrickson, then Sefelt, and soon enough almost everybody else joins in.
In the movie, however, it is a bit more different. First of all, there are only 18 patients in the room in total. Secondly, Macmurphy doesn’t try to convince Ellis, Ellis instead stares him down for an awkward couple of seconds and then Macmurphy decides to not bother him. Another difference is the scene with Chief, in the movie, Macmurphy says a lot more to the Chief than in the book, where he’s simply listing off people and Chief is the last person he thinks of. Another difference between the movie and book is that Cheswick tells Macmiurphy that the Chief raised his hand while in the book we only hear Macmurphy automatically reacting to Chief raising his hand. The final difference I could think of is that Macmurphy was originally working before he went to the TV in the middle of his schedule while in the movie he throws a fit while arguing with Nurse Ratched and sits down at the T.V., waiting for her to put it on. When she doesn’t, he starts acting out the game, and then Martini, Cheswick, Harding, and the others finally join in.
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The baseball scene in the movie is different than the baseball scene in the book. In the movie and he doesn't get his votes, he goes where the TV is and states to act like there is a baseball game going on and he is acting like that he is the commentator. In the book, he just sits by the TV and Said "Hoo-wee! Man, all I need me now is a can of beet and a red-hot." Then Miss Ratched tells the men to stop what they are doing and go do their duties. But none of them budge and they all go and sit down besides McMurphy. I like the movie scene better than the book scene becuase when McMurphy was acting like that he was at the game being an announcer. In the movie it also showed all the other men joing him and having fun.
there is only a couple seance that are the same one of them is when mac gets what i like to call shock therapy they take lots of high volts and they put them throw his head after mac come out of it he is just not the same person hes still breathing but his soul is dead so big cheif helps him out he smothers whats left of mac with a pillow he dosnt want make. to suffer its nit killing mac becaues mac is pretty much already dead meier
In the narrative, it shows Miss Ratched not very aggressive towards anyone, like she is calm. Also, it's like she "cares" for the patients on the ward when she really doesn't. In the book, Miss Ratched is really mean and aggressive. When her helpers were talking in a group she was gonna put her arms around them and yell at them. In the narrative, the helpers in the white suits were nice to everyone and polite. But in the book, they were mean and hated what they were doing as a job and didn't like anyone. They were being mean to Chief when he was walking to his spot to mop, they hit his legs to make him go faster.
Zimmerman
Well let’s start off with the paragraph that I read, it was the 1st paragraph on page 8 (in the book) and it says (word for word) “(Papa tells me to keep still, tells me that the dog senses a bird somewheres right close. We borrowed a pointer dog from a man in The Dalles. All the village dogs are no-‘count mongrels, Papa says, fish-gut eaters and no class a-tall; this here dog, he got insteek! I don’t say anything, but I already see the bird up in a scrub cedar, hunched in a gray knot of feathers. Dog running in circles underneath, too much smell around for him to point for sure. The bird-safe as long as he keeps still. He’s holding out pretty good, but the dog keeps sniffing and circling, louder and closer. Then the bird breaks, feathers springing, jumps out of the cedar into the birdshot from Papa’s gun.)” and ass we know, this line wasn’t in the movie, it was only shown in the book, and in order for this to be shown in the film, there’d need to be a directors cut to show us what happened with the chief in the past to make this happen altogether. The actors would have to be on set for a large period of time in order to have them do what they need to do if you want all of the book to be covered period.
I read the part where they are justifying who mcmurphy is on pages 25-30. this has more intense parts than the movie because mcmurpy is more of a pain for them to deal with because he is so disrespectful to them. the nurses go on about his record and how he has so many charges from the past it is kind of interesting on how he has done so much stuff. he also in this scene of the book makes a bigger attempt on trying to convince them he is crazy by telling more about his file than what the nurse already said to the doc. I also looked up the vera part and that got a little interesting. It starts with harding mentioning that she is his wife and better hated half. Him and her go into things and than she asks for a cig. And he does not have one which frustrates her and makes her get snarky at him. She says that he never has enough. If we saw this part in the movie it would cause more aw and intenseness. There is that real world problem in relationships where one of the partners does not “have enough”. Whether it finances or other things such as personality traits. Like courage to communicate with the other partner i have experienced and seen this numerous times. For example if you or your partner is doing something or not doing enough of something and want to help or tell them to fix it you should tell them or ask them. Most of the time this occurs it usually does not get known till after the relationship ends. My buddy was told this while in a relationship and should have did something about it but did not. He spoke to me about how awesome this person he was with was and did not express it that much to the partner causing them to think he was not interested and making them sad, even though he did really care about them. Some people need to realize that not everyone is going to have a surplus amount of something. The people that do need to communicate and help find a solution to this problem. Otherwise its going to be a circle of the same thing over and over. To sum this message up do not complain about a flaw, communicate the issue and help better improve. This book shows about how big acts of rebelliousness in the improper environment can have major consequences to the one causing the problems. In this case it is a person who does not belong in a mental ward who decides to create an interesting experience for the actual patients there, the only thing bad about that is that the management in the facility does not like “distractions” is the best word i could come up with for what he does to the people who are trying to better themselves. If he would have been a little more subtle about his actions he probably would have kept his mind from being disassembled and reassembled. In my opinion his death was for the better because like other living organisms if they have no real life perception it is better to put them down or to rest. Without a functioning mind it would be like being a zombie. Just walking around not knowing what to say or do, without feeling any real sense of emotion.
so in chief perspective, I read that R.P asked got go fishing and they had a paper that they can write it down on. but in the movie, R.P just snuck out and just took the bus with the people on it. just like in the movie when they were in the bathroom R.P wanted to go watch the world series but they were not allowed to watch the game so he was going to sneak out to watch it at the bar downtown.
Comparing some parts of the novel to the movie, I took a look near the ending at the lobotomy, when Chief had seen McMurphy after the lobotomy. In the movie, it was just Chief sitting there with McMurphy after the lobotomy, talking to him and then eventually suffocating him. In the novel, however, a lot of patients are there with Chief as well, all talking to each other about how the ward didn’t hide the lobotomy very well. Expressing the blank look on McMurphy’s face and other many errors that didn’t fit in with who McMurphy once was. I also took a look at the baseball scene in the novel, though very similar, I did notice some differences in how it played out. Nurse Ratched in the movie never left the Nurses Station during this scene, but in the novel, she walks out and yells at McMurphy directly. During this, the other patients start to join along with McMurphy, stopping the work they were doing, while in the movie, Ratched started yelling at them after they were all together, and they weren’t doing any specific jobs at the time in the movie. The last thing I looked at was the fishing trip and the aftermath. I mainly noticed a lot of the differences of the aftermath, because in the novel, the fishing trip is talked about a lot more than in the movie after it occurs. It is consistently mentioned and looked back on in the novel while in the movie it was almost like it never happened. Those were just some of the differences in the novel that I had discovered while reading through certain segments.
-Busselman
I am reading 5 pages of the Cuckoo’s Nest. What I read was interesting because of how well it kinda goes with the movie. Billy actually killed himself with stuff on a desk and not a piece of glass. Miss Ratched killed Billy mentally because she kept telling Billy that she was gonna call his mother. Ratched went straight up to McMurphy and told him what happened. Ratched went back into the nurse's station. McMurphy went straight through the glass. First of all, after he did that he ripped all of Ratched clothes off. The three black men didn’t do anything for a while. Then they finally pulled McMurphy off of her. Ratched spent a week in the medical. McMurphy was trying to kill her the same way that Billy did. Everyone in there was wondering where McMurphy was. When some of the guys asked Ratched where he was but she can only write and nothing else. Now she is scared of everyone. She can’t get her ward under control anymore because she wasn’t the same. No one would listen until McMurphy would get back. Ratched made his last play and rolled McMurphy in on a gurney and it said: “MCMURPHY, RANDLE P. POST-OPERATIVE” then at the bottom it said in ink “LOBOTOMY” but no one believes it was him. They talked about how they got all of his features right. Chief was right next to him. Breathing then stopped then started again. Chief did this for a while until he stopped kicking. Chief said it felt like days that he was over McMurphy. Chief couldn’t handle it so he killed him with a pillow until he couldn’t breathe anymore. One of the guys told the Chief that he should leave because Ratched would know who did it. Chief went into the tub room and picked up the control panel. It took him a couple of times but he did it. He lifted it and then he heard the black dudes running to him. So the Chief threw the panel through the window. Chief ran and ran. He thought that he was flying because of how fast he was going. He got a ride with this Mexican. Chief told him that he was a wrestler and that they tried to lock him up in the nuthouse. The Mexican gave him ten bucks and a jacket. Chief wrote down the guy's address so he could send the money back when he got ahead. Chief tried to go to his old tribe but he was away a long time.
Pfeiffer
I read the last 5 pages of the one flew over the cuckoo's nest Full text. It relates to the movie on how billy kills himself because of Ms. Ratched. Ms. Ratched was the one who made Billy kill himself because of how she would tell his mom everything he was doing wrong. But Ms. Ratched blamed the other people. After Ratched saw Billy she went up to McMurphy and the guys and told them about billy and walked back to the nurse station. McMurphy went up to the window and broke it and ripped the nurse's shirt open. while the three men didn't do anything. McMurphy had to be ripped off of Ms. Ratched and she had to spend a week in the hospital she was only able to write. when Chief finally decided to leave he grabbed the shower pannel from the bathroom and chucked it through the window. Chief rant to the highway and hitchhiked with a Mexican driving north in a pickup full of sheep. he was able to get his address so he could send him money. The Mexican gave him ten dollars and his leather jacket. Cheif then went back to his village to see if he could find anyone he knew that hasn't drunk themselves crazy
The movie One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest is a great film. I also think that the book is amazing also. I love how it is in a way that Chief is talking and not a narrator. I think that Chief is a great guy and he could do so much in life but he has to be committed or stuck in the health center. I think having Chief narrate is a great idea since he is the quiet one out of the big group. He is super quiet and just listens to what other people have to say either about him or about other people in the group. He never talks or does anything really since he has been in the health center until Mcmurphy comes along and helps him out and gets him to stand up and play basketball or as Mcmurphy said “Put the ball in the hole”. Chief is a keep his own opinions to himself kind of guy and he does not open up to anyone. Chief and Mcmurphy become bestest of friends and they can trust each other over time since Mcmurphy is there. I didn’t think Chief would be the one to be a narratologist because of how quiet and shy he was in the film but I think that it is a great idea to get him to talk and get him in the group just like the rest. Ms. Ratchet does not like that Mcmurphy is trying to get Chief to move and talk and to express himself because he has never done it before with her there. Mcmurphy is a different type of guy everything is dead and quiet until he comes in and then everything becomes different and out of order as Ms. Ratchet has a certain schedule for everyone in the health center. Ms. Ratchet tries to stop Mcmurphy from being so loud but she can’t control it. Ms. Ratchet tries to make Mcmurphy crazy kinda and she wants him to stay in the health center for longer so he loses his mind even more because that place makes me think outside of the box. He wants to try new things in the health center because he knows that the people in it are not crazy and they are just there to be there, they are voluntary and he is wondering why is not. He gets very angry because he wants to get out of there but he just digs him a bigger hole because Ms. Ratchet can keep him for longer.
McCulley
I thought the movie was ok but I think it would be cool to see more about how McMurphy felt and if he was actually "sick" and needed help.other than that I liked the movie lot
A baseball game isn’t worth the risk,” Harding says. “Who the hell says so? Jesus, I haven’t missed a World Series in years. Even when I was in the cooler one September they let us bring in a TV and watch the Series, they’d have had a riot on their hands if they hadn’t. I just may have to kick that damned door down and walk to some bar downtown to see the game, just me and my buddy Cheswick.” This to me shows that mcmurphy will do anything to see a baseball game while he is in the hospital because this is his change in his life and he really is not a fan of the routine in this place, he wants to see the game so badly he tricks the other patents to vote for it even though they are really not a fan of baseball he tries to manipulate them into voting yes so he can watch the world serious while he is serving his time.
Rai
I ran across the grounds in the direction I remembered seeing the dog go, toward the highway. I remember I was taking huge strides as I ran, seeming to step and float long ways before my next foot struck the earth. I felt like I was flying. Free. Nobody bothers coming after an AWOL, I knew, and Scanlon could handle any questions about the dead man—no need to be running like this. But I didn’t stop. I ran for miles before I stopped and walked up the embankment onto the highway. I caught a ride with a guy, a Mexican guy, going north in a truck full of sheep, and gave him such a good story about me being a professional Indian wrestler the syndicate had tried to lock up in a nuthouse that he stopped real quick and gave me a leather jacket to cover my greens and loaned me ten bucks to eat on while I hitchhiked to Canada. I had him write his address down before he drove off and I told him I’d send him the money as soon as I got a little ahead.
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