Make multiple entries—one each for Wednesday (1-4), Thursday (5-8), Friday (9-12)—to write all you can, considering this narrative. Focus and write with the time you have.
1. Write about grace (which the mom represents).
2. Write about nature (which the dad represents).
3. Write about thinking, cognition, awareness.
4. Write about the setting.
5. Write about the time shifts.
6. Write about the relatability of the narrative. Mr. Massmann rightly says this is where the film thrives: each scene creates a major opportunity to connect your own life in a relatable, poignant way.
7. Write about the point of the narrative.
8. Write about the defiance.
9. Write about the connections.
10. Write about the forgiveness.
11. Write about the difficulty.
12. Write about ______________ (your choice).
"Unless you love, your life will flash by."
"Wonder."
"Hope."
See this too, found by Mr. Massmann. Powerful. Kent Jones. “Like The Thin Red Line and The New World before it, The Tree of Life is a war film. The war is between a mother and a father over the souls of their sons, and while no blood is shed and the war is fought across dinner tables and patches of grass, it is no less emotionally violent than the wars of the previous films.”
How is the tree of life metaphor/allusion applicable here?
Extra credit: read & write about this review of the film by J.R. Jones.
57 comments:
First grace means simple elegance or refinement of movement. The mom represents that because she is nice and she is kind to everyone.
First nature means the basic or inherent features of something, especially when seen as characteristic of it. The father represents it because he is the backbone of the story.
Thinking means to think about it and to know what is happening. Cognition means that the mental action or process of acquiring knowledge and understanding through thought, experience, and the senses. Awareness means that the knowledge or perception of a situation or fact.
The setting is all over the place. They were at a swimming pool and their house. There could have been more but I was gone for most of the movie
1. write about grace- grace is like everything good. hope, love, kindness, beautiful, to me the mom doesn't represent grace. she let her children get hurt and did nothing about it. that's not grace. did she even tell her children that it's not their fault and that they are good people. did she pick them up when they were down. no, if anything she gave them the pain and stuffing by not doing anything and letting the father hurt them. she isn't a good mother in my eyes.
2. write about nature- they think the father represents nature, but I don't nature is always changing and growing. nature is what keeps us all alive. he didn't do that. he is more like the smoke. he isn't something anyone or anything should help. he is a disturbed monster who could actually just say sorry and everything goes back to normal. news flash kid the next time things bad happened do you think he is about to be calm and caring no he is going to go back to the same monster he was before. I hate that someone would say that he could be nature like what the fuck no he can't. its sickness to see people protect this man and say. "but he said sorry" bullshit
3.write about thinking and awareness- thinking is something everyone does. right now I'm thinking about my hamster and how cute he is. others might be thinking about food or their phone. everyone has different thoughts but also some simpler thoughts like what time is it or did I do well on a test. I think being aware of the fact that everyone is different and we all are, our own people. I think people go too far with that sometimes tho. they think because they are strong or powerful that they can do anything they want no matter how much they hurt others. think about humans we took over the whole world then complain about a few animals or want more. does anyone ever think about that. people are surprised when they see a wild horse or a deer. how sticking is that. this world big world and we took all most everything than treat the things that were here before us like trash. we are killing this whole plaint and I can't wait for the plaint to fight back and give us all what we could deserv. death
The mother was a symbol of grace because she was caring and loving. The boys loved her because she was not strict like the dad and fun to play with and talk to. She taught them a lot of things such as being loving and forgiving people. She is the person to talk to when dealing with emotional stuff.
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I feel that Jack thinks that his mom is an angel or made up of grace because she treats him better than his dad does and because the mom is always there for them, unlike the dad. The mom gives them advice that I don’t think the dad does. The mom is more nicer and gentle than the dad, the dad is more of a rough person and tries to teach them to be strong but it just causes Jack to have issues.
I think Jack is thinking his dad is like nature because of how rough he is and he does not really care about what happens to anything but himself in his work. He is like nature because he is rough with the boys and he tries to make them strong. Jack gets in trouble because of how his dad is treating him and how he is getting tough. I feel that it is hurting the mom because Jack acts like his dad at some point in the film and runs out the door just like his dad.
Jack is thinking through this whole movie and he is very aware of the people around him and what he wants to do. He is aware of how his dad is treating everyone but he is not aware of what he is doing because he treats his brother and mom like his dad did. He knew what he was doing when he was breaking the windows out of the house and yelling at his mom.
The sun is a great part of this movie because it always shined behind the mom indicating that she is an angel and she is the saver in this film. She is the star, Jack thinks she is just amazing because she is nice to the boys and she fights around with them and she lets them do pretty much what they want, unlike the dad.
McCulley
Nature is sometimes beautiful and ugly just like the dad. Sometimes he is caring and loving and the other times he is strict and a bully. He whants to tuffin them up, make them strong and to be their own boss. But in the ways he is doing it is just not cool and will effect the boys emtions and feelings towards him.
The word “Grace” has been defined in the dictionary as goodwill and honor or credit by one’s presence. The mother represented that towards her kids and honored them by being a perfect gift for the family and the tree. Whenever the mother nurtures them they feel peaceful, forgiving, and free from whatever they want.
The father in the entire movie represents nature because he tries to toughen the kids up, do changes to their own nature by his own different nurture (environment) from the mother, and teach them too quickly about the hostility and cruelty to the world. The things that the father does makes the kids feel insecure, hostile, and worried about everything in their daily life.
What this movie is trying to tell us is that great nurturing to your own nurture helps you with your mental process and what you end up thinking about everything in your surroundings. Bad nurturing causes an effect on your nature and you don’t think about anything positive in the world and don’t have the best awareness.
Settings of this movie include what humans and our early ancestors have evolved into and what the environment is doing to us that will make us view the world within ourselves; Nature vs Nurture.
1.Grace is goodwill of someone which the mother does well with the kids. People have the grace to be who they and and help other people. We can use grace for helping people in low places just as the kids were in the movie. Mainly the oldest son needed the grace because he had been treated the way he had and wanted the courage to do something terrible to his father because of it,but he knew it was wrong and did not want to hurt his father himself. The boy wanted natural things to happen to him. I believe that he did not want to kill him he just wanted his father to feel pain like he felt. The son loved his father and he knew it. Regardless of the discipline given.
2.Nature is what is consequential and reality. The father showed this to the boys maybe a little too much to them for their age, but i am assuming back then it was somewhat normal for the discipline given. Life can be a huge pain though, he was kind of showing that to the kids because he was teaching them responsibility with making them keep the yard in better shape and how to make it better. Ironically what the dad was teaching the boys was to be different than him and then jack started to be just like him. That is a big part of nature because something to learn on his own. He had to decide whether he was going to take getting put down on life or whether he was going to show his dad he is not weak. I think the apology was definitely a huge thing because jack has always seen his dad doing everything without regret and never apologizing to them in the movie. I think jack may have forgiven him just because his father never showed remorse towards his actions. Life gives us our nature with having challenges to face and people looking down on us. But with the power of grace people move forward and accomplish many things.
1. The mother shows grace through her emotions and the way she took care of the children and especially with the husband, she really didn't retaliate she just shed a lot of emotion. She was really polite and she just had a thoughtful way of behaving. She was forgiving and also very generous in the things that she did.
2. The dad compares with nature because the dad had a very harsh and tough childhood growing up I'm guessing because he would yell at his kids pretty aggressively and animal-life specifically, most animals have a stage of viciousness and sometimes attend to show it but they also have a competitive/playful stage and same with the dad he would get mad at his kids but then tend to play with them sometimes but that was because he felt somewhat bad I think but then he would do it again so I'm not really sure.
3. Thinking is something you have to do before you do anything you always have to think before you do something. Having a filter is a big part of thinking. Your self-conscious telling you what to do and what not to do, having that one voice in your head telling you can do it, you are able to achieve the goals you want to achieve and I also think that when you think that something is or isn't a good idea that's you thinking to yourself that you should or shouldn't do that.
4. The setting of the story is kind of all over. It starts off in a house, hospital, the backyard everywhere but the main setting of the film is in Waco, Texas and the whole film was about the eldest son jack and follows his life journey through pretty much his innocence of childhood to his disillusioned adult years and having a very hard time with his dad and trying to reconcile a very rough relationship with his father.
1. the mom mostly represents the good, like she’s some form of an angel sent from above to make sure that there are checks and balances while the dad is gone so they don’t defy him
2. the dad represents power, like some form of a devil who took an angel hostage to show the heavens that he means business showing the 3 Nephalem (offspring of an angel and devil) what happens if you metaphorically f*ck with him
3. thinking, cognition, and awareness, 3 things come to mind for each, think: That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime, cognition: Persona 5/Royal, and awareness: Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc/2: Goodbye Despair/V3: Killing Harmony. Let’s start with think, for the thinking aspect, let’s start from when the MC starts as a low-level creature, to what he is now, we have to think “how can a man who has died and made it to a different world as a slime, run a town with no experience for leadership, THEN run an entire country with zero political experience or prior knowledge to the surrounding kingdoms” that question comes up in most Isekai anime, and we don’t have a clue behind it. Now cognition, in Persona 5, there are things that we see of people, and what we see ourselves, or other people, let me give you an example, there is a locked door in front of you in a certain shape in a mental world, you then go back to the real world and see the same door of the same look, but less vibrant, what happens if you unlock that same door, it’s simple, the door in the person’s cognition will be unlocked when they see it for themselves, this is just the power of the mind, another example, you see person X hanging out with person Y, if you go int that same mental world, person X might be treated like a king/queen while person Y is treated like dog water. And finally, awareness, in the Danganronpa series, there are class trials going on telling us “who killed person X” and every time a class trial is over, you have more space to observe, telling us, the player to observe the area around us for possible murder weapons and any suspicious evidence
4. The setting is set somewhere after WW1 when the baby boom era is here and racial/gender discrimination still exists
1. The mother in the narrative Tree of Life represents grace. She represents grace because she makes the boys happy and cheers them up when they get yelled at by their father. The mother is the more relaxed parent and gives the boys more freedom to do whatever they want. She is mostly in a happy mood or has a smile on her face for most of the narrative unless the father is yelling or disciplining the boys for talking back. The mother is way more tolerant than the father because the father gets angry really easily.
2. The father represents nature because nature can create things and it can also destroy things. He was really harsh on the oldest son and made him do yard work and if he didn’t do it correctly he would get angry at him. It kinda seems like he favors the younger two sons because he doesn’t make them do any yard work and he isn’t harsh on them, just the oldest son. He was wanting his kids to be tough by telling them to punch him and then pushing them back trying to get them to get angry at him and actually punch him to show they aren’t scared. Sometimes during the narrative, he was playful and actually wrestled around with his sons and made them laugh or he would draw facial hair on them. Throughout the story, the father puts himself as a failure in his mind because he didn’t grow up to be a musician but instead he worked on a power plant. I think when the oldest son yelled “she only loves me” at the father, it changed his perspective and I think that is the reason why he changed a lot.
3. There were a lot of times where there was a lot of thinking going on. Like when the oldest son walked up to his dad while he was under the car working on it. He was thinking about kicking the car jack out of the way and having the car smash his dad to death. He was thinking about that because of what his dad has been putting him through and how harsh he was being. Another part where there was thinking is when the oldest son told the dad that it is his house and he can kick him out whenever he wants. The oldest son could’ve just run away but it seemed like he wanted to give his dad the joy of kicking him out.
4. The setting for the narrative is in multiple places such as the swimming pool, the church, their house, school, a funeral, the cemetery, at the dad's work, in the future. I think the director put so many settings in the narrative because he wanted to show where a lot of people go in one day.
Zimmerman
1 grace is a supper loving mother be she doesn't have much to say he shows her boys that she cares about them but when her husband is involved she kinda just sits back and watches i think the 2 younger boys are a lot like grace they resemble her by just kinda running free without a care she doesn't really take that big of place in the movie because she is so quite
2 the nature that the father represents in trying to make his boys in to something great he doesn't want them to be a screw up or makes the same mistakes he did he really makes everything into a lector about life he thinks that he can really put a curve on his boys lifes bit really hes just being a hard ass that makes him seem like he doesn't love those boys
3 the boy seems to think a lot you can really tell what he thinking he really want to kick the jack out when his old man was under the car he was playing with his bb gun and thought it would be a good idea to shoot his brother in the finger after he shot him in the finger his brother was in deep pain you could tell by the pain he had caused he felt really bad he and didnt wanna hurt anyone any more
4 the setting is mostly around there house in town but they do go lots of places they went to the pool where there friend drowned then to the church before they put him 6 foot under they also were in the woods playing around looking into the beautiful water was the fish would swim there a scene the is in the city where he was on the phone telling his dad how sorry he was that his bother died and that he still thinks about him evert day they started to clean up a old house to
meier
In the movie, the mom showed grace. she showed grace by being hopeful. she shows her good side to the child because she still wants them to have a childhood. she wants the kids to be able to have fun explore the world. Nature is showing someone's basic or inherent features. dad shows this by how he makes the boys obey his order and puts them into line when miss behaving. sometimes he can be fun with but he seems like he is not your friend he is your father. they gather cognition through learning from their mistakes or advice passed. awareness is the knowledge of a situation. thinking is when someone's mind considers or reasons about something. the setting jumped all over the place from home, pool, dinosaurs, etc
The concept of Grace is usually portrayed with kindness, honor, and love. What the mother represents in the film, we see how the boys love their mother and how she loves them back. She is often portrayed as if she is an angel who came down from heaven itself but lacks the confidence to act truly independent for herself
The concept of nature is portrayed by learning and embracings one's self and adapt to an evolving world. The Father is time and time is again shown to both be loving but harsh to his children, he wants what's best for them but wants them to be strong once they grow older to a different world than what he lived through.
The setting is...rather not that interesting to be honest. Not much can be said about a 1950's era suburban neighborhood.
Too many time shifts, it makes the pacing super slow.
Thinking causes us to put effort into what we are going to do how we will accomplish it or what deciding. It we think how everything is happening or what is currently going on as well which is a part of awareness too. Awareness is knowing and understanding what is going on visually and with sounds. We notice a lot of things we have to be aware of in certain situations. For example; how precise we have to be or another specific trait that has to be considered. How it feels where you currently are and/or what's happening.
The setting causes recognition of older times when people were treated differently and shown. We also see what people use to do and how they were using transportation. We see so many things at different times but sometimes we never take all of it in.
!.The mother represents grace due to her appearance and actions. She was a very lovely, non-violent lady with a stable temperament. She rarely yelled or argued or tried to fight anyone and she also had a very soft and graceful beauty to her.
2.The father represents, I think, all aspects of nature itself. He could be spontaneous and destructive but also calm and indifferent. He could lash out akin to the fury of a sandstorm or blizzard but could just as well be a soothing breeze, only strong enough to merely tickle blades of grass. He is nature because of the beauty and sense of appreciation he could bring and inspire, when Jack helps the Dad pull out rotting plants or when his fingers graced that piano, a soft tune was played that I swear could make me feel the same feelings I felt having witnessed my first sunset. He is a force, something that some may try to stand up to while other times they might have simply bear with his existence.
3. Thinking is definitely shown at the start of the movie in which Jack begins to reminisce about this childhood. This is one of the main plot points of the movie. Cognition could be seen through the Mom and Dad as they both end up teaching the kids something in the flashbacks. The Mom tells her sons to love everything and hold on to love while the Dad laments on his failure to appreciate the life he had and the beauty of the nature around him. Awareness could be seen in the Dad’s lack of awareness towards his enjoyment of the simple things in life as well as the effect his treatment had on his eldest son.
4. The setting was very pastoral and quaint. Barely anything happened and the boys were out and about, having as much fun as they could stand to have. I love the nature shots and how they were abundant in Jack’s childhood, the cinematography was amazing and just captures nature in all of its beauty. When we then see Jack in the future, we see the beauty of both natural and man-made creations and are happy to learn that Jack has learned to accept both aspects of nature and man-made creations.
Grease she is being represented as an angel to comfort the kids and make sure nothing bad happens to the kids.
Nater its being presented as a free thing in the would and anything can grow up to become more mucher in life.
For one example is when Jake starts to act differently and a way that scares the parents and his brother but he soon figures out the way that he is acting is not going to help him or his family in the long run so he changes the way he acted in the beginning to a more positive note.
For the setting some of the setting are sprouts to emphasize on the character them selfies like the one scene when the mother was waiting for jake to come home and she was standing in the sun lights path making it look like she was sent down from heaven.
Gurung
In the movie, mom represents Grace who is compassionate, hopeful, forgiving, generous, supportive, and ethereal. Grace is something beautiful like mom. she showed grace by being hopeful. How mom is carrying the love for kids and taking care of them. She was forgiving, kind and etc.
5. Well, it basically shows us that we went from the present, to the wayyyy far away past, to the mid-1900s, to the present, along with the confusing end scene and it’d make more sense if there were more narration
6. Well, it all depends on the context of relatable, if it’s something that people see happening on TV or IRL, relatable is replaced with mood and the other way around for the public
7. For some reason, the point was all over the place, the point would be easier to find if it were a prostitute looking to find someone to “do” or finding your friend in a public place that you both agreed on, but no, it’s as hard finding a black squirrel in the pitch black with no flashlight, and you’re also wearing nothing but porkchop panties running away from the tiger who hasn’t eaten anything in 2 days who will literally murder you if you stop for even 1 millisecond
8. Defiance is basically being told what not to do but you decide to do it anyway like being told to not look into a person’s past and finding something horrible about them resulting in them going to a different town over and over again resulting in karma coming to bite you back in the ass for snooping for personal info
1. The mom is grace because she is kind to everyone.
2. The reason why the dad is nature is that he is demanding, harsh, and tough. He has the oldest do yard work and yells at him for doing something wrong.
3. Cognition means that the mental action or process of acquiring knowledge and understanding. Thinking means trying to understand something. Awareness means knowing what is happing around you.
4. The setting of the movie seems like that it was in the 1940s and '50s. The reason why I think this is because back then with dads, they were hard workers and would have a job and the mom would stay at home clean and make meals. Also, the dads would teach their sons everything and make them do a lot of work. They would be very strict towards them. In the movie young Jack even said that he was more like his dad then his mom.
I'm doing my best to be positive but I do have to be honest about this.
6:I had absolutely no clue what was even going on in the film most of the time, even when I can finally be able to process what is currently happening. It wasn't that interesting as it tries to be, it jumps cut to another part in the families living at such random intervals it can make it hard to follow.
7:I can answer the same way I had with question 6, I will go more in-depth for a proper review of The Tree of Life for number 12 on Friday.
8:The only moment of defiance I can remember from the film is where Jack became rebellious and starts to get into trouble with his mother and father, clearly hit with a early teenage angsty mode and thoughts towards others.
3:Well... I guess the film does try to be thought-provoking and spread awareness of what life was like in the 1950's American Suburbia.
-Andrew Colby
4.Most of the time the setting is at their house where all of the family is with each other. That's where they all have to respect their dad. When the setting is outside the boys laugh and play and they feel free from their father. Other times the setting takes us to a whole different time zone. It shows outer space, lava, and the ocean.
5.The time shift is meant for the viewer to think and bring the puzzle in. It is beautiful and strange at the same time. I think that the time shift was meant to show the viewers that there is more to life and that everything it shows has a reason and a role to play in our lives.
6.The character that I can relate to is the oldest son. When I was younger, I was rebellious, not only to my parents but also to my teachers. I've lived and learned from my mistakes. just like the kid did.
4. the setting. most of the setting was outside or in their home. the older child liked to be outside I think how then inside probably because of his father. same with the younger brother. but he liked to stay with the other boys. the older brother seemed to want to be alone or pick a fight with them. we don't really see the mother much, she was pretty much always inside the house. I wonder if it was because the father wouldn't let her or if she was just doing housework. with the father, we know that he was working so his setting was work and home.
5.time shifts. ???
6. things I relate to. I have seen abuse and yelling not anymore but I used to from my family and others. I wish parents could understand how "little" things can change a whole kid's life. I'm a lot more to myself than I used to be when I was younger. It's harder for me to trust and love someone because I never know when that could all change and I could be alone again.
7.defiance. I think it's ok to fight for your rights and beliefs. standing up for the things you want is fine, you shouldn't live the way others want so they can be happy. you should do what you want and be happy. but breaking the law and killings others just for fun isn't something I would want to how. so there is a fine line with defiance, it can break you or make you strong, it just delines on your actions
5 the time shifts affect the movie by helping us understand where he is at in the future. As jack is a child it does not give us specific time change at all, but we can see it there, because of the jump of events shown to us. I think that time has a huge impact on the movie because we see how the world changed for him in his adult life. The time when he was young had many interesting and different things such as the parts where the father was being rough with the oldest one. This is understandable in some ways though because of what he was doing was not only showing jack the pain and discipline but showing his younger siblings the consequences of not following the rules in the long run. In the future when he is an adult we get to see the modern side and it seems like a better place then where he was. We also get to see that he is now a lot more mature than he was in the middle of the movie when he started being rebellious. If the time changes were not there it probably would be a little bit more boring.
6Personally i can relate to discipline and rebellion. If we did something wrong there were consequences and some kids never learned from those consequences. Life is a constant battle for people and people seem to not learn from what happens from cause and effect. This causes no change and effects a person from moving forward. I can relate to the rebellion because i did not want to listen to my parents and followed the wrong friends, but then i changed and they changed because they saw what was going on as well as i did. Architecture was a part of this film and im not sure if a lot of people noticed it when watching it or thought this much into it, but this whole story is pretty much a build on architecture. The reason i say this is because it shows us that we create and build who we are but we can also destroy them like architects do. For example: jack started off with a lot of trust built with his brothers, so much that his brother put his hand into a light bulb socket, then when they were playing with the bb gun jack wanted him to put his finger at the end of the barrel and he did because he trusted jack. The trust was then destroyed like a wrecking ball to a skyscraper. Maybe this is why jack chose to be an architect because he saw how he could build and create after destruction. Not only with his brother but with his father too. His father apologised to him and as we know he was harsh and was really not the kind of person to feel sorrow for his actions so it took a lot of him to do that and jack saw that and most likely forgave him. His relationships were built and destroyed then built again into something better than before just like architecture.
7 and 8 will come next
Time shifts usually happen in movies, TV shows, and books whenever a character is dreaming, narrating, or having and seeing something that reminds them of their past. In the movie, The Tree of Life the main character wakes up in a dream and starts to think about his past and what direction he took and what he planned to do on reliving them and what impact they made.
Relativity of the narrative has a lot of connections with and what it feels like being in that situation that the brothers were in. The things that the brothers experienced throughout their childhood was family arguments and the reality of the cruel world. Whenever one of my family members gets into an argument I sometimes pound on the table, throw an object, and cuss at them. Now I’m saying that happens all the time it happens about a few days a month. As for the cruel world I’m used to it and I know how to fight back with my words instead of my fists.
Point narrative is the use of a written or spoken commentary to convey a story to an audience. The purpose of the movie was to deliver information so they can know more hidden meanings of the movie; What the philosophy is, how does this relate to issues in the world, and what it all meant.
The word Defiance is a/an open resistance; bold disobedience according to the dictionary. I can already tell this because of what the boys did and how they viewed the environment during their father’s reign.
5. The time shifts in the narrative are all over the place. It goes from the present to the future and then to the past. It was kinda confusing following the time shifts because they would be placed in a weird order.
6. It kinda hard to relate to a movie that is based in the 1950s because times have changed and parents were more strict back then and showed who was the boss and made their kids say certain things.
7. I think the point of the narrative is to tell you about the existence of the earth and your life and how everything came to the place where everything is now.
8. The oldest son was the most defiant one out of the brothers. He would get into more trouble and when his father was gone on a business trip, he wouldn’t listen to his mom because he knows that she is scared of him and will do what he says. He acts like that because when his dad is around he has to do whatever his dad says or he’ll get yelled at or get into trouble for not listening.
Zimmerman
7The point is as i stated in the last question to show what building and destroying can do for your future. It also shows discipline and forgiveness can be huge lessons in life whether its getting grounded from something for doing what is seen as wrong or forgiving and building with someone who has done bad in the past.
8Defiance is not really okay when it comes to parents but i understand that jack did not like seeing his mother or brothers getting disciplined the way they were and he wanted to assert himself and attempt to make things better for his brothers and mother. Most of what i am saying is that if someone is doing something that is hurting others or people you love you need to show them that you will not take it, i think what jack may have been trying to do is get everyone else to start going against him so he would maybe change, but thats just a theory i guess.
5 time shifts so it shows the boy as he get older it shows him in his 40s as a businessman super successful it shows him as a baby just living life it shows him as a toddler hi father teaching him to be a good kid they i wasn't here for the whole movie so i'm not sure if there was another time change
6 i think that the main thrill of the movie is seeing the kids emotions he gets mad and he does stuff it it gets you going the biggest emotional deal that happens is when he shot his brother in the finger i that just gave me a empty feeling it made me hurt and i think that he realized what he was doing to to people and that he needed to learn to love people he retrained himself to be nicer his family his dad makes him feel supper loved and that really makes a thriller makes a big moment
7 what is the point of the narrative i'm not really sure i think they are trying to make you appreciate what you have there trying to make you love your family and that your parents just want the best for you it shows you that dying isnt alway the best way out that you will hurt people for the rest of there life it hows things not to do as a parent things happen in your life that shape you to who you are this day people leave people dies people hurt you but thats what makes you. You
8 the definition of defiance still doesn't make that make sense to me i think its more on the side of how the boys are treated they have after that loves them but doesn't show it often they have a mother that loves them a lot but but never stands up for the way her husband acts towards the oldest boy the boys all love each other a lot but there still boys and they do dumb stuff meier
5. I think the time shift in the film was to try to get the watcher to think about life, and what they are doing.
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7. I think that the movie follows the life journey of the eldest son Jack through the innocence of childhood to his adult years as he tries to reconcile a complicated relationship with his father. In his adult years, I think that he is lost in the modern world, seeking answers to the origins and meaning of life while questioning the existence of faith.
8. I think as Jack started to grow up his defiance was growing too. When he was younger he would have his dad always yell at him for doing something wrong. But when he got older he started to hate it. He even told his mom that all you do is let him walk all over you and us, then he slammed the door.
The time shifts were weird and cool. I mean by weird it was odd where they put them. Cool because it was very interesting how they did all of that.
The relatability of the narrative is cool because of how they tied everything together.
The point of the narrative is cool because it showed how everyone lived their life and how they got there and how it all happened.
Defiance means open resistance and bold disobedience.
Pfeiffer
9. The connection that are shown in this are possibly too well-timed, the director could’ve waited just a moment for certain scenes to take place like (an example from yakuza: like a dragon) Ichiban Kasuga finding out that the head of his family from the Tojo clan is dead after meeting the night prior, to then finding out that that there would be an assassination on a yakuza leader that he works with him and some friends finding out that they were late, and after fighting Jo Sawashiro, he finds out that Masumi Arakawa was his father and Ichiban’s father was kept a mystery until the climax came to fall after chapter 11
10. Forgiveness isn’t something that can be made up and given on the spot, it’s earned after doing something for the person that you owe a debt to, for example, you could’ve done something downright awful toward a gang and be captured, you’d have do some unspeakable crap if you planned on earning yourself some forgiveness from a crime lord or a gang leader
11. The difficulty of all of this in childhood, is not getting caught doing something stupid in the end, you get caught sending bottle rockets at the end of the road, stupid, you shoot roman candles at a friend and they’re doing the same, stupid, you sending something to a friends house, not stupid, the good is un-noticed, but the bad, that’s just asking for you to get noticed and get in trouble
12. Well, here’s the plot of persona 5 and not Royal because Royal is basically considered base game plus DLC. You are Ren Amamiya… wait, it says Akira Kurusu on here as well, might as well merge the 2 together and make Ren Kurusu, anyways, you are the MC walking home when you see a bald man sexually assaulting a woman, you try and stop whatever is going on, but oh no, you’re now sent to a different place going to a different school for a year. Now go to the subway, you’re in your new school uniform to go and see your foster dad that is technically your uncle and you start school… in 2 days. Now we’re 2 days later, you had a funky dream about a man with a long nose and 2 lolis that people simp for, don’t make out with them, I will cut you if you do. Anyway, now you’re on your way to school, you meet 2 protagonists and the 1st antagonist, known as, you meet with Ryuji, the best boy, did I mention that you have a funky app that lets you travel to the same place you’re supposed to go and not at the same time, yeah, you 2 do to 1st antagonist’s palace and get thrown into a dungeon, get slapped around, said that you have to do the fitness gram pacer test, and then you summon your persona, Michael Jackson (Arsène), and escape your prison cell, oh, and Ryuji is with you, he isn’t important right now, then you find a cat named Morgana, and he has his Persona, Zorro, then you escape and get in trouble by the school faculty. The next day, you and Ryuji try to go back to the castle, and then you remember that weird GPS I mentioned earlier, you gather info on what Kamoshida has done to the volleyball team, and get beat up… again. Then Ryuji summons his persona, Captain Kidd, then legged it. A couple of days later, you go back and a girl sneaks in and get’s captured, and that’s when we find out that Kamoshida is a pedophile and a womanizer, but mostly the first thing and now we have a new member, Ann and her persona that looks like a dominatrix, Carmen… after you find his treasure, you then beat the living crap out of shadow Kamoshida and then this story ends, not. To sum up the 6 other palaces, here it is in short: Madarame plagiarises his student’s art, Kaneshiro has student’s smuggling drugs, Futaba blames herself for her mother’s death, Okumura was overworking people and died from Akechi, Masayoshi Shido is responsible for the death of Futaba’s mom’s death and for you going to a different school. After all that has gone down, you then have given yourself the task to kill god, and you summon your OG persona that literally turns in an equal god called Satanael and you practically said “pull my devil trigger” before killing Yaldabaoth and going to juvie, the end, case closed no more supernatural stuff going on besides the government following you, QUEUE THE CREDITS *With the Stars and Us starts playing*
5. The time shifts are an amazing addition to the story. I love the vibrant colors of the childhood memories as well as the dull colors of the present day. I feel that this exemplifies Jack losing his appreciation for nature that he once used to have, the childhood memories also tend to have a cooler, dull tone whenever sad or depressing situations occur which is also a nice touch. The time-shifting and the use of color show the differing perceptions of life through the eyes of Jack throughout the years, but when the pre-established color scheme shifts, it really goes to show how emotions are fickle and are always subject to change even in moments that seemed to be filled with happiness and days that seem to always be melancholic.
6. I think the narrative is very relatable, especially in the aspect of reminiscing on our past and the lessons that our parents and adults in general always tried to teach us. This lesson, of course, was for us to enjoy life and hold onto every moment. I feel like I kind of fell short on appreciating the simplicity of early life and I do also find myself reminiscing on my past, holding onto past memories of people that I'm no longer in contact with due to moving and us eventually growing apart.
7. I believe the point of the narrative is to appreciate life at every moment you possibly could. You shouldn’t dwell on the past too much, you shouldn’t really think about the future too much either but instead learn to love every second of the present. You could of course briefly look back in time or peer into the future if you want to but don’t let that get in the way of you enjoying the present.
8. Defiance. I believe one of the only instances of defiance is Jack standing up to his father. He stomps up to him and screams something along the lines of “She loves me, only me” to try to tell his dad that he is not wanted nor is he truly loved in the family.
Rai
In this movie, there are those who love to chide or who hate them. For the mom who loves chide and has lots of hope for them. She can forgive chide if some kids make a mistake. For the dad, if some kids make a mistake he will not forgive he will hit you.
The time shift talks about what it was like back then and how much harder it was just to survive until the meteor hit and all of the dinosaurs went extinct.
The one thing that I can relate to is when the father is harsh on his son and the boy doesn't understand why he is acting like this but the father comes back to apologize for what he said and done and put it behind.
The point of the narrative is so you can keep up on what they are talking about and so you will not lose focus on it.
For the defense, it shows that the kid is just not having it anymore and is going Rabelais and will not listen to anyone, not the mother, not the father, or his brother.
Thurs.
The time shifts in this movie were all over the place in different time zones. At some points Jack was a little kid and at some points it was him as an adult at his job. I think that the time changing makes the movie a little confusing, this is one film that you have to really pay close attention to, to understand it completely.
I can relate to the mom in this film because my mom is kinda the same way, she takes it easier on us and gives us love and care. I can also relate to Jack because I was about his age and I wanted to do things I wanted to do and I couldn't and I got mad also, I got really mad at my mom almost all the time because she didn’t let me out of the house to let me do what I wanted.
I think the point of this film is to always be grateful for who and what you have. I think that they show that really well in this film, I think how Jack as he gets older he learns more things, he learns what to do and what not to do and he gains respect for some things, like his mom.
The definition of this movie is like the life of one family in a short period of time and you have to be patient and willing to learn. You have to listen and pay attention really close to understand this film. This film is a family that has a lot going on and they try their best to get through it with them being together.
Friday
The connections in this film are really put together. They are put together really well and one example of this is how Jack imagines his mom floating in the air like she is an angel of some sorts.
When the dad apologized to Jack for being rough with the family and just being mean to everyone in his own certain way. They were working outside one day at the house and his dad came over and random;y said he was sorry for him being rough with Jack and always wanting him to be the best and make sure Jack was strong and that took a pull on Jack because Jack became rough and mean to everyone else just like his dad.
I think that there was a lot of difficulty in this film because of all the things that has happened to everyone in the times that went by. They lost the youngest kid and that ripped everyone apart and I think that it took a big pull on Jack because he was down all the time and he didn't want to deal with anyone and he wanted to do what he wanted.
This quote from the film "Unless you love, your life will flash by." makes an impact I think because when you don’t love it’s like life is going slow because of how lonely or how your emotions are. With love in your life for some reason life flies by like it wasn’t even there.
McCulley
9: The connection's from what I can find is... well... I really can't find any real proper connection's to this film.
10: The concept of forgiveness from what I can see is the father trying to obtain forgiveness from his family after he was simply being very hostile and abusive towards them, we are unsure if they did forgive him.
11: Difficulty is simply... just trying to find meaning in life and existence in of itself.
Now time for the big one...my personal review of the film for number 12.
-Andrew Colby
The word connections means that I’m attached to everything I want and what I adapt to. The movie tells about what happens to your connection to everything you want and do and it is what the boys go through because of the cruel world and their overprotective and strict dad.
Forgiveness to me is a hard thing to do when someone does something bad to you. The things I do before I forgive is knowing what made the person do it and what caused them to be that way. Sometimes holding grudges can take your energy away and lead you down a path that won't lead you to success. That’s what the boys in the movie needed to understand and what people can do to change.
The difficulty that the boys have trouble getting to is their own perfection of nature and the path to forgiveness listed above to redeem the full nature of humans.
The direction of this movie is well perfected, artsy, and symbolic to the point where there isn’t enough talking, but a lot of scenes of nature and what humans do. This movie can be compared to a lot of movies that focus on other things besides people talking like 2001: A Space Odyssey. The movie 2001 focuses on the evolution of species and technology instead of characters doing nothing but talking and I bet that movie inspired the director of The Tree of Life just like all directors in Hollywood.
Grace in this movie is important because it shows that some of the people in the house really rely on grace to help and save them like the mother she uses grace to help her when her husband is mean and hard on the kids and she also helps when she plays with the kids she shows them that there is love in everything you do.
Nature with the father is the fact that he is being tough on the kids to make them stronger and he does this by showing them what to do and how to do it even if it means to be mean or hurtful or true.
This question is tough because the whole movie is about thinking and processing the thoughts and feelings of each character but the oldest kid does the most thinking in my eyes because he thinks about his brothers and his parents like when his father and his brother were playing music together they were smiling and the oldest boy looked confused and sad.
The setting is all over the place at first they were at their home when they got a letter about their youngest boy having passed away and then it goes to the oldest boy at his home on the day his brother died and it shows that he feels like it is his fault and so do the parents.
Time shifts in this movie are absolutely confusing because one second they are in the middle of the day in their yard then they are in the middle of the city during midday at the oldest brothers office. It's just weird when this happens and its hard to follow.
The relatability of this narrative is close to me because my dad is tough on me sometimes and i know he is just trying to toughen me up and get me ready for the real world but once in a while it gets to be a little too much and it hurts to see also my father is a great man he would never hurt me so that does not apply to the film.
I think that the point of the film is to show you that life can be really difficult but you have to push through it and think about the memories and not the bad ones. Think about the good things that happened and don't reflect on the bad things in life. I also think that they are trying to tell us that life is short to be pushed around and told what to do all the time.
In this film i think resistance is a good point because the oldest child and his brothers try to resist their father when he is being strict and they try to push him away until they see that he is struggling then they do not resist and they are loving and caring towards him
The connection between the boys and their father is very important because the oldest even said to him “i'm not like her… im more like you” and at that moment you could see in the fathers expressions that he had messed up because hes seen all the bad things the kid has done. And the youngest kid is more like their mother because he is innocent and kind hearted.
In this film forgiveness is key to everything because when the father changes his way in the end the boy forgives him and sees that he was going threw a hard time in his life and he was just showing them that he does not want them to be like him and the mother alway and i mean always forgives the kids for the things they did even if it was bad.
In this movie the difficulty is dealing with the death of the youngest child. You can see the father really struggles with this because he was really really hard on them and he feels like its his fault and the oldest brother feels like he was a big douche to him and he feels like it was all his fault and the family is going threw a very difficult time that no family should go threw.
And not i am going to wright about the father and how what he did was not the wrong thing to do, the father just wanted his own kids to be great in life and be their own boss when they are older he does this by telling them to keep your elbows off the table and to be quiet when someone is talking to you, he also does this by telling them to do the right thing the first time.
Serbousek
The time shifts give a different feel to the movie because you can never expect what will happen next it shows them throughout the years and their changes. This is relatable to my life because of how people are emotional in their own ways. they are fighting their own problems like I do sometimes but life continues and nothing will be the same. I believe the narrative of the story is how life will continue to move on. there will be things that will be missed or forgotten. nothing will last forever. people will come and go. friends will not last forever, pets will come and go. the family will go as well. The narrative talks about how we should live day by day and just live in the present and enjoy that day while it lasts. defiance is when someone disobeys orders from higher authorities. in the movie the boys show defiance by slamming doors, storming off, talking when bot suppose to. defiance could do sometimes because maybe one day disobeying someone's orders could help someone. but it may cause problems most of the time. Forgiveness is hard sometimes. It takes a lot to forgive someone for what they did. because of what someone did to hurt one or their family in a way that cant be fixed. is harder to forgive. forgiveness needs to be earned not just given to. difficulty. the difficulty is when something is harder to do or say. it is harder for the dad's family to forgive him for his mistakes and it makes it harder for them to forget some of the problems that they faced.. and hope. hope is easier said than done. you can say you hope that things would change. like I hope this I hope that. but it won't happen unless you make it happen. nothing will change if you don't put your mind to it and actually do something to get what you hoped done.
9. There were a lot of connections that came from this narrative. The scenes of the movie are placed where they are for a reason.
10. Forgiveness is what the father was trying to get from his oldest son after he finally saw that he was being a little too harsh towards him. I think the director did a good job showing that the father was trying to show forgiveness to his son when they were in the yard because after he said he was sorry the son gave him a hug.
11. Difficulty in this narrative is one of the hardest things because it has you try to focus on a lot of things and then it’ll just change scenes while you’re just trying to think about the scene that just happened.
12. This narrative was a confusing one because it swapped scenes too many times and it would switch scenes fast, so you had to take in a lot of scenes. I think they should’ve added more talking so it wouldn’t make it so confusing. Like when their son died, they should’ve added what year it was so we knew the timeline.
Zimmerman
9 i don't feel like i really have that many connections with this movie i did have a really good buddy die when we were at a young age i remember the the things i saw the life flite helicopter flew right above my house i could hear it and see it i remember going to daycare the next day and everyone was crying i couldn't under stand why i asked where my best friend was and they told me he wouldnt be there today i rember asking if he would be there the next day and they told me he had choke on a hot dog and died
10 forgive ness is a really hard thing to deal with i struggle with forgiving there somethings that just cant be forgived but some people hold things against people and it just needs to be let go if someone does something to me to make me mad i just walk away from the problem stop doing anything to help them and let them figure it out on there own then i slowly re enter there life and show them that i have moved on from the problem
11 everyone knows its hard to lose some one you love its even harder when they live the world out of nowhere you cant just stop thinking about them and move on it just dosnt work like that i have an uncle that died over 40 years ago my gramma still cry about him every couple of months it hard to lose a kid and its something that youll never let go
12 life is hard when you young where do i even start i need all of this new equipment for my own business and i don't have a credit score because i pay off every lone ive ever had in under 6 months you would think that would be good buy i guess its not so now i have a new problem i am trying to buy a work truck and i want a 10000n dollar lone because thats the going rate for these trucks but i go and ask for one and they can only give me 7 because they say thats what its worth but every truck right now is worth way more because of covid. Covid mad it so we can make new trucks so everyone is buying the older ones not really sure what i am supported to do and im starting to get really mad meier
Connections are a big part of life because you need to be connected to someone to have a good time or even just talk to them.
Forgiveness is a huge part of life because if you can't forgive someone it can ruin you in the long run. I say that because you need to forgive someone before you tear yourself apart.
The difficulty is huge because everyone needs to have something difficult in their life because if you don’t have it then you're not living life.
Now I will be writing about fear. The reason I chose this is that in the movie it is everywhere. The reason I say that is because everyone is afraid of something. One of the boys was afraid because someone they knew died right in front of them. The mom is afraid because she lost her boy.
Pfeiffer
Depending on who you are and how you think you can connect to this movie in many ways. I will start with the children and their mother. They have a strong connection because they see her as an angel for how she treats them. This tends to change when jack starts becoming like his father and defies both his mother and father. Jacks brother also has a huge connection with him because when jack is trying to wrestle with him he tells jack that he will not fight him because he is his brother. I have had that same feeling towards family as well. I will not fight them because whether we are on bad terms or not we are still family. I think a lot of people with older siblings had the same thing happen of when they tried to show us something dangerous and pretended to harm us. There are many things we can connect to in this movie whether it is something big like wanting to harm someone or whether it is just acting like someone older than us.
The forgiveness in this movie is extravagant, it shows a lot of maturity and hard decisions. We see how the wife/mother forgives the father or it kind of seems like that but we know that if she did not seem like she forgave him she would have been kicked out and the boys would have been in very different situations. We also see forgiveness from the boys to the father because of how the fathers mood changes. One moment we see this is when the father disciplines the children and then is giving his full attention to them and having a good time. The brother that jack used to do trust games with also forgave jack after the BB gun incident. We see that sometimes forgiving family can be easy and hard because of the moments i have said already plus when jack never forgave his dad until he apologises because of how he was treating his children. Forgiveness is a huge mental decision and choice for everyone depending on the reason of course. For example if someone knocks over a few notebooks and apologizes for doing so it will most likely be forgiven easily. The other side is when it is hard to forgive because one event that was huge or a constant recurring event. An example of this would be the father disciplining the way he did. Forgiveness is letting go of what happened in the past and making the future if we want to have that person continue being the way that ended them in the place they are/were and we tend to be too stubborn to let a small thing go. I have been affected in negative ways by people who were continuously doing the same thing, but I forgave them because in the long run it made things better.
9 and 10
Grace the moon represents Grace and so many ways she protects her children she's quiet she takes a slow Road peaceful she looks out for others when they can't do it themselves. She moves with the piece in the Wind she's every essence of Beauty and the children's eyes. The mother we can so they see changes throughout the story and then some scenes show different phases of herself. Yet she always keeps a smile with her children and brings out the best in their childhood. As for the father he represents nature the strongest lead the weakest fall. And nature nobody plays favorites it's just simply who shows the power and the will to keep surviving. As many say now nature is cruel but she has her ways. Much like the father has his own ways. He may not go about it in the right way is but he does do it and later on in the film he comes to realize that he shouldn't have been nature but a different form of nurturer. Throughout the sound that makes you think as you see the other characters develop and see you their own ways and thinking patterns. Boys find balance not only with their parents but also with themselves their friends and each other. They think can grow off of each other with the awareness of what is going on between their parents and what's going on in the outside world they have to be aware in this environment. Children can see the unhappiness in the marriage I believe that they do see it daily. The one thing that they are not aware of and that they cannot seem to comprehend is it this is not a normal family a picture-perfect for example. The setting in the plot the small perfect neighborhood seems to contradict everything that this film is doing with the death of two children at Young ages and the patterns of abuse that they face when they were little. The fighting between parents is an unhealthy amount of discipline. The setting gives us a sense of what the boys are going through and how the outside world is not really what they experience. Time shifts in the film contrary to but most films do to actually help the story Builds on itself showing us what happens in real-time to what happens in the future and how the past events of their childhood affected them in the future.
-vargas
The mother goes through many stages including grief and happiness and soaking I may become more aware more afraid of what her reality is but as graceful as she is she does fall the father does build in the son does heal. In my own experience, I think the narrative is just to make the best out of it and make yourself stronger ignore the faults and all the other people around you and the environment. I should know since my parents did get divorced and I did live in an abusive household for a long majority of the time. I know an abusive father looks like and I know the fear in the children's eyes I know the confusion of figuring out what's wrong with my family and if I was a problem. But I kind of found out that it wasn't me but it was between my parents and their own past issues and them not healing. I don't like hitting super into detail so I'm going to add my own right here. Continuing. I believe the point of the narrative is to take the good and remember the evil so that you can get away from it. I think the main point of the narrative was to show us the people can heal from things that many of us have never gone through. The boy I did end up taking with a good wise and make a life and seemed to be happy and what his own life was. However, you can still see the pain as many of us will never truly heal completely. Much like shatter glass, you can always fix it but you can't put it back together and still see your reflection just not the same. Many of the connections I saw in the film were with my own life. But if you want to ask me in person I'd be okay with that just please don't look at me like I'm broken. Forgiveness is very hard for people however especially when it happens to you young and it still affects you in the future inspection that I found with that with the boy was that he can't fully forgive his father much like I can't fully trust any man in my life because of my own father. I live in constant fear is never good to live like people are going to treat you the same way that your past father has is never always the way to live you wish to change it but it never truly goes away. I think the true difficulty is waking up every morning and trying to start new and see the new trying to see the best in people that ignore the evil trying your hardest every day to not make connections to just forget to just forgive just live with Grace.
-vargas
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10. Forgiveness is very strong. Sometimes it is really hard to forgive people but sometimes we just have to forgive people. Everyone is going to mess once in a while.
11. Difficulty going through the death of their child.
12.
5. The time shifts are actually pretty cool like when they switch at the perfect time there pretty satisfying to watch and just observe.
6. I can relate to the loss of a family member it's hard to think about it but it's easy to forget it if your mind lets you.
7. The point of the film- I'm going to go in-depth with this because to me this is what I think the main important point of the film is. I think it's a symbol of some sort and is symbolizing each and every individual as trees, trees are all unique with their branches sprouting out in all different directions and different points and just like us, people, everyone is unique in their own way there height, weight, age, skin tone, everything even attitudes and in the film it showed how everyone reacted and there relationships toward one another and it really stuck out to me that the mom really didn't talk much and that's because she is the on that is the most observant and shows the most emotion.
8. The most defiant would have to be Mr. Obrien, the dad because he is the boldest and acts like a fierce man himself but then at some points realize that he's being too harsh and not really care that much and I feel like the only times he would be relaxed would be when he's playing the piano or when he's having fun with his kids.
9. The connections between the two little brothers are ok. The youngest one was kind of the more shy one who would get picked on and then the other one would be the one to pick on him and want to be mean to him, but kind of towards the end he was forgiving.
10. The forgiveness was toward the end of the film when the oldest son went up to him in the garden and started helping him and when he went up to his brother and said sorry.
11. Difficulty would probably be throughout the film for one trying to deal with losing a family member and then having the dad being the way that he was.
12. I'm going to write about how the film, in general, was just good it was confusing at some points but when we rewatched it and pointed out spots we didn't see before the movie is kind of like a "go back and try to find it" kind of film and you just need to be attentive and keep up with what's happening.
9. connections- connecting to someone is being comfortable around that person. and having fun, not worrying about being blamed or judged.
10. forgiveness- for me forgiveness is a hard hard thing. I don't think trusting people. it's like giving a knife to a killer and hoping they don't kill you. It's annoying and I hate putting myself thrown those things. small things are ok for me to forgive like if someone pushed me over in the halls or bumped into me at the store. but with the big things, I never forget ever. but you don't have to always forgive people, it's your choice if you want to trust someone again or not. it's hard but for some people it's helpful. me and a friend got into a fight a while ago but we thought it would be best to make up because we had classes together and we wanted to be adults.
11. difficult- the hard things in life make people more powerful and strong, or it can bring you down and make you weak. it's all up to you are how you deal with things. in the end, it doesn't really matter because what we do will mean nothing after we die.
12. future- no one knows exactly what is going to happen you could have your life planned out but one little thing can change everything. I have no idea what I want to do or how I want to live my life. to be honest, sometimes I don't even know myself, and that's sad for me. i wish I could know myself and know what I want but I don't and I don't think I ever will. because I change, over and over again. I'm never going to stop changing, I used to love pink then i hated it now I don't really mind the color. small things like that can change all the time.
11 Many things are difficult in this movie. All the children making simple requests to the father was very difficult for them to do because they did not know what was going to happen. Jack doing all that yard work and keeping it in good condition was most likely difficult as well. One of the most difficult things would have to be the mother trying to handle all the events going on with restriction on what she could do to help the situations. We have this same difficulty with making decisions on what to do with limited options. Lets just say you are were in this time frame and had less power than someone who was weighing on you and providing you at the same time. What would you do? Hold out for awhile or just make things harder for the family to be together? It would make sense to do either one but in the end i would have just stayed like the mother because holding a family together maybe tough but it keeps a little bit of peace especially when someone makes a change like the father did.
12 I am going to write about the father and jack about just and unjust. All throughout the movie we see different events and actions occurring. The father wants the boys to grow into the best people they can be and have a good life. We are not quite sure on how the other brother grows up to be but I can assume he is doing well and still in the picture. We see the dad switching between good and bad in the movie and i want to speak on where i think these events come from. In the movie we see numerous times that the father is rough with his children when it comes to disciplining them and it makes us have anger towards him,but during that timeframe of the movie that was normal. That discipline causes the boys to learn from their mistakes and actions regardless of if he is a hypocrite. These actions he did were not fully wrong in the sense of understanding the time frame. I think that the most harm he did to the children was the mental abuse from his words because harming emotions can hurt more than physical pain and lasts longer. The worst thing i think I saw the father do was put his hands on the mother. I bet back then they were told what to do and lower than the husband,but not the physical part when they were fighting other than him trying to calm her down. Jacks actions were getting unjust after he started disliking the fathers ways. I understand why though because at that age they do not understand how parenting works exactly. Jack was getting tired of his father walking on the family and wanted it to stop, but as we see in the movie it seems they have a lot more freedom to go out and do stuff than most kids these days. When jack shot his brother it was unjust of him because the brother trusted him so much. Another point is when jack started getting rough like the father, this showed us that he was not taking his mothers side because his dad was strong so he wanted to do the same. Now the most unjust part that I noticed was when he wanted to kill his father and when he wanted harm to his father. Yes he was a bit harsh but that does not mean someone should die. In all reality the only things the father is guilty for is hypocrisy and harsh discipline or treatment, which is not a reason for murder. In my eyes no one should be killed for revenge. Change is possible, that was what the father showed us when he apologised and i am sure that jack learned that when the father did so. As much as it seemed boring at the beginning i started changing my opinion on this movie when i really thought about what was going on. Like in my other responses. This movie is now on my list of favorites to watch for educational purpose.
The mother represents ‘grace’ because from the point of view the kids see her like when they see her in the clear casket with roses and she is apparently seen flying or floating beneath that tree. She was never given a name either, at least not that I noticed was given which I found oddly the same with the father
The father somehow represents nature, maybe that it being unpredictable in a way or people can love it or hate it just depends on the day. Like a tornado at some points. Spiraling out of control for little reasons. Making things bigger than they need to be.
There was none cognitive or awareness when it was basically a youtube compilation with bareilly any plot to follow and you would sit there and wait for the actual people clips were playing to try and follow and know what was happening none of the people had names jack but who even was jack which brother the one that died or supposedly died in the beginning but is back to life for the remainder of the movie how does that make sense I don’t get it i’d probably have to rewatch it to get an idea of what was happening and find out who was Jack.
There what setting from what part the family that it kept going back to then someone said the 50’s in obviously a small somewhere probably south if I had to guess Kentucky who knows. The tiny middle class house they owned. The pool that was also a river. Oh and the house the eldest brother went into.
I don’t remember the time shifts really. It's hard to remember the order of them all because it goes back and forth so between the future and apparent past and the random clips from youtube it seems with the random lights and whatever stuff looked like from a microscope I don’t know.
I guess if you want me to relate to the kids or the dinosaur because I would love to be a stegosaurus
The point of the narrative I think is either to confuse the close minded or widen the open minded.
The defiance of the movie is a mash of confusing and difficult parts of life you could say or how certain things affect us in life simply by what parents do sometimes even without realizing it.
I think the candless somewhat have something to do with either the dead son or soon to be dead son or maybe something significant with his mother since they see her as a bright light or grace and see her as being forever young and immortal in a sense. Lighting their way through life.
The forgiveness of the sons to their father for doing the things they did not to mention the part where the mother has to forgive the boy for simply going to that one house she don't know what he did or when the dad freaked out on all of them for what reason who really knows this whole movie is full of jambles in confusing not in order obviously not smart enough to understand it.
The difficulty of understanding this movie is unreal. I think plenty of other people in this room can agree with me on that part. Some of the scenes they put in are so ambled up like their are no names. We know nothing about them changing scenes and having them whisper random words for what?
It feels as though they do it just to confuse people and the random clips that they took from a youtube compilation that they add in randomly like the waves and the cells that I don’t see how they can relate to the film or maybe I should rewatch it.
zody
Grace in the movie was all about care, elegance, being courteous, and simplicity. The mom really characterized this by being very loving to her children. She was very loving towards them and always wanted the best for them. Multiple scenes in the movie also showed the mom as being “graceful” with her floating around slowly, the setting around her being very bright and calming. She’s very passive with her children, never really yelling at them or going after them.
Nature in the film was very stern, not caring in the moment, very rough and difficult. The father depicted this by being very strict, the kids could never speak up or speak their minds, almost no matter what was being said. Times where they weren’t even going to talk back, the dad goes after them. This treatment also really acts as nature towards the kids, as the kids grew up with this, they became hardened, more defiant. One of the kids even thought about kicking the jack from under the car while his dad was below it. The kids would yell at their mom and make poor choices altogether. The nature they’ve run into with their dad is very negative and takes a hard effect on them.
There was so much thinking going on with the characters of the movie and even viewers of the movie. A large portion of the movie just involves thinking, whether you can tell the characters are thinking strongly, which makes the viewer think, or scenes that exclusively make the viewer think. So many symbols in the movie make you think a lot harder about what they could possibly mean. For cognition, as we see the kids throughout the film, we see them develop, and one thing I noticed was as they went through more experience, they seemed to understand better and learn more from it. Along with this, they become more aware, we see them start to complain more about their father later in the movie, as well as becoming more opposed to the rules of their mother.
The setting of the film varied but mainly stuck to the family’s house. The house is where most of the movie took place, it’s where we saw the kids grow and change. As it went on, the house was where we saw the father's interaction with the kids, whether that be the times he’s being harsh or getting along and playing with them.
-Busselman
The time shifts in the movie are very all over the place. It starts out with mother and kids, and then the passing of the youngest son. After that, it moves to when the oldest son is all grown up. Throughout the entire film, it seems very back and forth. Going from in the past, to the future, and back to the past.
I feel like this narrative is very relatable because it’s very realistic in the way that it’s written. There’s no part of the movie that’s far-fetched and it does a great job of showing just an average family, which helps with relatability. The kids go through strict parenting from the father, they have to do yard work, the family fights with each other, gets along with each other, there’s a lot of things that happen in this movie that really show how this is a typical family, which is where I believe a lot of the relatability comes from.
I think the point of this narrative is to get people thinking about life in general. I think this movie attempts to make you reflect on your own life, maybe appreciate it more, and find the little things more special. The narrative seems to want you to focus and reflect more on yourself and your life than the characters and their lives.
Defiance is a big thing the kids do in the movie. In the beginning, they seem more well behaved, they listen and they seem happy. It seems as the movie goes on and as they maybe get older, they begin to act out more, they defy their parents. One of the sons yelled at his mother, calling her out for letting the father walk all over her and treat them all poorly. They would leave the house and be gone for a long time without the parents knowing. There was a scene where a group of kids were breaking windows. It seems that the kids in the movie represent defiance.
-Busselman
There were many connections in this movie, whether it be positive or negative. The mother had a strong, loving connection with the kids. While the father and the kids had tension between them. This later causes some of the connections between the kids and mother to shift, tension builds between them, but she doesn’t directly cause it. The kids have a very brotherly connection, they mess around and hang out with each other.
Forgiveness was all throughout the film. The oldest son, all grown up, learned to forgive his father for how rough he was on them throughout their childhood. The mother forgave her kids when they misbehaved. Even at times where the father was mad at the children, he would forgive them.
Arguably one of the biggest difficulties in the film was the passing of the youngest son. It was shown near the beginning of the film that the youngest son had passed away. This was a huge struggle for the family, especially the mother. Later on, it was even shown that the middle son had passed too. These things were emphasized all throughout the film and shown to be a very difficult time. Another difficulty would be the kids and the father, they seemed to constantly fight and get into conflict, which caused many difficulties for the family on its own.
-Busselman
Gurung
When I listen to the word forgiveness what comes to my mind is if someone does the wrong thing we should give forgiveness one time so they have a chance to get regret and they won’t do that again if you don’t give forgiveness they will be the same as what they are used to be. Forgiveness makes a lot of difference in our lives and it helps to change the people
Gurung
All of the time the setting is their house and pond, lake, or outside of the house and the older son likes to spend time outside of the house because I guess it is because of his dad.
Everyone has to face difficulty. if you face difficulty you never give up just cause it hard you need to face difficulties with your hard work and after that, you feel easy same like In this movie the difficulty is the youngest kid dying and the oldest kid have to face difficulties his father make his life difficult.
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